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Originally Posted by Adam Ef (Post 3120005)

Have you looked at Hagon? Some of their shocks are good value.

I have, they don't do them.:smt072

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what Biblio said is so true. This is also why I ride an sv650 and I'm still a lesser rider than my bike.

I would also say that an average rider is asking for trouble running a Bonneville fast through the twisties. That being said whenever I follow a buddy of mine who has a bit of a racing resume on his old Bonnevilles (stock suspension at that) I can't keep up. It all comes down to the rider.

I get what you're saying, it's a bit unpredictable at the minute, but proper suspension will only make it safer. It might go on the track but only for a laugh really hence my concern about performance of the hardware as well as durability.

Quite a few people on the NC forum have fitted YSS shocks to replace the woeful std item. They all seem to be happy, no reports of bad quality or unreliability.

Did you go for the YSS? I've now got a Bonneville andwent for the Bitubo shock which I really rate. I did use YSS PD emulators in the front forks and they are good quality and work well. Not as flashy as Racetech golds although I did use racetech springs and brake fluid. Most important is make sure the put the correct spring rate on your shocks when ordering ;)

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Originally Posted by Balky001 (Post 3120760)

Did you go for the YSS? I've now got a Bonneville andwent for the Bitubo shock which inteally rate. I did use YSS PD emulators in the front forks and they are good quality and work well. Not as flashy as Racetech golds although I did use racetech springs and brake fluid. Most important is make sure the put the correct spring rate on your shocks when ordering ;)

Thanks for that.

Not yet...but funnily enough partially because I relaised their springs are progressive and they don't disclose the one size fits all rate.

I have tried 2 different brands of cheaper end of the range shocks on twin shock bikes like Triumph Bonneville and Moto Guzzi v7.2 without success. Hagon are very good at providing different spring strengths to suit your weight but I ended up going to a local suspension specialist for advice who diagnosed the problem as rebound damping I think it was ,but this adjustment wasn't possible as part of the service on the type of shocks I bought. I would point out that Hagon gave me a full refund and no doubt they can provide whatever you want depending on the service you are paying for.

Dave, if the spring rate is wrong it's a bad base for the rest of the settings. The emulators I got were £80, compared to the cartride kits around for £600. The emulators are adjustable (just a pain to get out each time) and are nowhere near as good at cartridge in terms of adjustment, but still miles better than stock. I thought at that price it is not a big gamble to try them and they work for me.

As svenrico says, get servicable shocks. I rate my Bitubo and mid range were £380. The rebound and compression are adjusted together with a slider from 1 - 5. It's enough to get a decent set up unless you are going to the track. I spoke with MCT Suspension and Steve Jordan's who both suggested Nitrons over Hagon, or the KTECH Razor. But they were another 2 or 3 hundred more than the Bitubo and they are going on a Bonneville after all ;)

I found Bike Revival had a lot of options and good to talk to about options you might not have considered http://www.bikerevival.com/page1.html

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Originally Posted by Balky001 (Post 3120803)

Yeah the YSS are fully serviceable but I need to do a calculation on the spring rate. I'd generally prefer to get a custom spring rate to my weight over a onesize fits all progressive one - but maybe I'll be in luck and it works out the right rate for me. Unfortunately Hagon,bitubo, ktech, racetech, legend etc. do not make shocks for my bike. My options are Ohlins, nitron (same cost as ohlins) or possibly shock factory as above and YSS for less than half the price. I might save up for the ohlins and do it in the new year.
Unless I can get custom springs for the YSS, but not sure how I guarantee it's suitable for the valving?

Cheers for the link to bike revival, I'll give them a go for some options

ah, that's a bugger on the shock options. If you speak to bike revival, they will contact whoever you want to use and will ask for a suitable spring for your weight. Mine was 88.5KG. Front springs I got linear Racetech at the same spring rate. Good question someone raised on another forum, when setting rebound and compression for a progressive spring, where do you set it, near the top or as is compresses as the rate differs. Seemed most people use linear when they can adjust the ride heigh/compr/rebnd.

Just a comment but I have generally been ok with rear monoshock bikes as supplied by the maufacturer. I am
sure they can all be improved if you want to pay for upgrading the suspension, but the trouble i have had was with bikes with twin rear shocks which were just unacceptable as original equipment. The moto guzzi v7.2 was particularly bad. I met other riders who had upgraded front and rear suspension and one was pleased with the result but it had cost him about £1,000. The local suspension specialist I saw quoted £700 but I think that was just for the rear suspension.

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Originally Posted by svenrico (Post 3120829)

Yep, this is Twinshock so that figures

re. monoshock think you have more margin for error as bibio said due to the way they work. I wasn't happy with the standard sv but have had no issue with a well serviced Showa.