Re: Brunstrom: "I would do it again"
 

Bloody hell man, just pass me that gun overthere, I'll do it me bloody self

Matt

Re: Brunstrom: "I would do it again"
 

i understand what you are saying, i think people are shielded from the gruesome nature of what it looks like when things go wrong on the roads, so shocking them may well have an effect on how they perceive road safety

but that wasn't my point, my point was that it's ethically questionable to use pictures of someone's deceased relative without their permission, regardless of how much good intent you have, and how much brunstrom had is fairly obvious when you see him trying to blame someone else for what was essentially his mistake and absolve himself from responsibility:---)

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This is primarily what I hate him for. He is so fixated on speeding (and we all know how dangerous target fixation can be, ho ho ho!) that he doesn't see the bigger picture. We can assume from the t-shirt the unfortunate biker was wearing that he shared a similar POV to most bikers: that speed itself isn't the main killer and that the police should spend their time focusing on something else. This only serves to compound the poor taste of using images of a dead man to promote a message which he, in all probability, was against when he was alive.

If you read about the effect the whole thing (re-entering the media) had on the poor man's family, you see exactly why using these sort of photos without the family's permission is such a big no-no. Whether or not his intentions were good is irrelevant and even if you could guarantee it would save lives (which I don't think you could- there are plenty of this sort of pictures on the internet already which I don't think have made any difference), it is the family's decision whether or not they should be used.

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I think he is a knob for upsetting the family - as i mentioned before. Everyone agrees on this including himself.

But he has pulled off a major coup with the PR on this whole incident - was the point I was making.

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but did he though? he's got massive coverage from it no question, but he's also got MPs calling for him to resign, surely nothing says "i'm a nutcase and you shouldn't listen to me" like having your opinion force you to quit your post as head of a police force?

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That's the point though, he doesn't accept that it was wrong to use the images, he said:

"I would do the same again - the question is the safeguards."

"I was stupid and I made a stupid mistake I don't intend to repeat."

"I clearly placed too much trust in the behaviour and integrity of journalists. I allowed others to exploit a position that I did not anticipate."

"The error of judgment I was referring to was misplaced trust."

He tries to shift it all onto the journalists who were effectively only doing their job...

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We've got 7,466 members - surely one of us must be a hitman?

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and 750 homos!

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At work they were like the guy has done nothing, I was so angry when they said that I had bite my tougue otherwise, I would have ripped into that person and tore them apart. But I don't think anyone else would have backed up so I would have ended up in trouable, its not the first my big mouth has got me in trouble.....

I also think speed does have a factor in accidents buts not the always the casue the majority of time its something else. I drive and ride fast, but too an advanced system that I learnt. The accidents I have seen have been through people not looking, (in the case of bikes, the car driver not seeing the bike and crash) cars racing at nearly 3x the speed limit and drink. He this is MY personel Opion right or wrong.

The guy is total ass hole, and undoes the hard work of other people....Yeah i was very angry but it was better for me to nothing this time. Just sit there and looked ****ed off.

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S'ok, he don't like Met coppers either, even though he wants the top job one day.

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The thought of him in the top job scares me a lot, could you imagine that.....the amount of bikers in london, I just don't want to there!

What we need is an angry mob, round up ******** in wales, brown and his followers and red Ken and burn them live on top gear as Clarkson said, its the best use of our tax money I can think of.