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LK-SV 09-12-09 05:09 PM

Re: Hate the Bandit!
 
I could be very tempted to a Bandit....

New Bandit S looks right up my street ....

ArtyLady 09-12-09 05:10 PM

Re: Hate the Bandit!
 
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Originally Posted by gfewster (Post 2119655)
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What does anyone else think of the Bandit compared to the SV?

Exactly the same as you - hated mine!

Juju 09-12-09 05:51 PM

Re: Hate the Bandit!
 
If you can get the bike fixed, why are you "hiring" anyway? The idea of credit hire is that you signed a statement saying you are "inpecunious" and require hire on credit until the third party pays for your bike to be fixed.

Its basically legitimsed insurance fraud, and your taking part in it. If you've had the bike 10 days, thats added £700+ to the total cost of the claim, without actually moving it forward or achieving very much.

But then I don't like these hire companies very much. They "pretend" in advertising to be "your friend" but really they ar just claims vultures.

Daimo 09-12-09 06:01 PM

Re: Hate the Bandit!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LK-SV (Post 2120007)
I could be very tempted to a Bandit....

New Bandit S looks right up my street ....

S is the one I have.

Also the new one has handy little compartments in the side panels to put change and mobile, and sweets :D

I like my 650, but would prefer a 1250 for the long haul trips.

fizzwheel 09-12-09 08:34 PM

Re: Hate the Bandit!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gfewster (Post 2119655)
What does anyone else think of the Bandit compared to the SV?

I like it. I've ridden 3 now as courtesy bikes.

If you ride it like an SV i.e. you don't rev it, you'll never get the best out of it.

Creamy smooth power delivery, peachy gearbox, good commanding riding position. Big comfy seat and the screen on the "S" is really good and keeping the weather off.

I used to get it up into 6th and then leave it there most of the time. Then knock it down a cog or two if I wanted to get a shift on and in the right gear I found it picked up faster than the SV did. Yes compared to the SV its a bit heavier, yes its slower to turn and needs muscling to get it to turn in. Yes it does feel wallowy when pressing on. But its a different style of bike than the SV so it requires a different mindset to ride.

If I wanted a motorway commuter, or I wanted something to do big touring miles on I'd have one. But I'd have its bigger brother the 1250 instead.

tj2 10-12-09 08:24 AM

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Got an 07 carbed 650....... think its superior to the new injected one.
Seems to have more grunt.
I thought the later injected version was too buzzy.Ok it went well enough but I got to admit that I am glad I didnt trade up ;)

Alpinestarhero 10-12-09 08:30 AM

Re: Hate the Bandit!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Juju (Post 2120053)
If you can get the bike fixed, why are you "hiring" anyway? The idea of credit hire is that you signed a statement saying you are "inpecunious" and require hire on credit until the third party pays for your bike to be fixed.

Its basically legitimsed insurance fraud, and your taking part in it. If you've had the bike 10 days, thats added £700+ to the total cost of the claim, without actually moving it forward or achieving very much.

But then I don't like these hire companies very much. They "pretend" in advertising to be "your friend" but really they ar just claims vultures.

You say that, but the other party, so long as they are to blame, foots the bill (or their insurers do anyway). So for me it was a win...I needed to have a bike to get around (far cheaper than using public transport) and the bandit carol nash gave me fitted the bill exactly. The first day I had it, I cleaned it and drenched the chain in parrafin and lubed it up niceley...made it feel like my own bike and treated it as such.

Fizz, I hear what you say about the bandit having smooth power delivery...but the one I did seemed to be snatchy off a closed thottle, it sometimes wasnt very nice! I also got terrible fuel economy. I wonder how badly the FI was set up :confused: but I also think that I was riding it completly wrong for the 7 out of the 8 weeks I had it. I could not really get into my head that I needed to thrash the engine, although when I did overcome my "god thats revving too hiiiigh" paranoia, I quickly found the engine to be more comfortable

gfewster 10-12-09 10:48 AM

Re: Hate the Bandit!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Juju (Post 2120053)
If you can get the bike fixed, why are you "hiring" anyway? The idea of credit hire is that you signed a statement saying you are "inpecunious" and require hire on credit until the third party pays for your bike to be fixed.

Its basically legitimsed insurance fraud, and your taking part in it. If you've had the bike 10 days, thats added £700+ to the total cost of the claim, without actually moving it forward or achieving very much.

But then I don't like these hire companies very much. They "pretend" in advertising to be "your friend" but really they ar just claims vultures.

Perhaps. But they are the people my insurance company passed the matter to - how my insurers choose to handle it is their decision.

There is also the argument that since I was not at fault, the third party must pay whatever costs are necessary such that I am not, as far as possible, inconvenienced by their actions. I should not have to fork out £1,700 and wait for them to pay me later.

Anyhow, as I've said on another thread, I'm thinking of returning it because (a) I don't like it, (b) I'm getting the train a fair bit due to various xmas drinks sessions, and (c) I'm worried they may try to make me pay for it if the third party never takes liability (although I never signed anything about charges, only ordinary hire paperwork about the condition of the bike).

ophic 10-12-09 10:55 AM

Re: Hate the Bandit!
 
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Originally Posted by gfewster (Post 2120654)
(c) I'm worried they may try to make me pay for it if the third party never takes liability (although I never signed anything about charges, only ordinary hire paperwork about the condition of the bike).

Yeah I had the same dilemma and decided to refuse the hire bike. My insurance didn't cover a hire bike so I'd be liable for the fees if the other driver somehow wheedled out of it. His insurance eventually paid up in full, but I didn't know that at the time so it was an unnecessary risk. If I didn't have access to another vehicle it'd be a different matter though.

Daimo 10-12-09 12:50 PM

Re: Hate the Bandit!
 
right, I wanted to check my power delivery below 4k....

Sorry, but its absolutly fine. 2nd/3rd gear, full open throttle, the digital speedo certainly missed quite a few numbers catching up..

It bogs down at 1500rpm, but it is a bike, so should never be that low. hell thats just above idle :lol:

I've got a digi camera on order for xmas, so i'll even prove it in the new year ;)

I think the above FI must have been shot, as I say im getting over 200 miles per tank regulary, on a caining session im getting about 170-180, and on boring economy motorway, 220+....


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