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thulfi 12-02-10 02:03 AM

Re: Which takes more concentration, bike or car?
 
Good point. Since riding, I have really found the disadvantage of being behind a cage. The views are so much more restricted. With a four wheeled lug, you cannot gain the advantage of different postions for a better 'read' than you can with two wheels, the natural advantage of a slimmer two wheeled vehicle.

Since riding, I have defo assumed and appreciated the greater responsibility with controlling such a large comparative vehicle (of a car compared to a bike). When I ride, I'm defo out for myself, but now when driving a car I have assumed far more responsibility and care than I did before I learnt to ride.

I'm alway a passenger with my gf, and am always trying to teach the best I can when she's behing the cage, ie blind spots, awareness, etc.

Bottom line is, when on two wheels, awareness for self preservation. But ever since riding, awareness in driving for self preservation too. Not about not checking your blind spot and taking out a brother biker!

metalhead19 12-02-10 02:16 AM

Re: Which takes more concentration, bike or car?
 
I would say that there are less risks when in a cage (such as not being seen and knocked off whilst filtering ect) but that does not mean any less concentration is needed when being in a cage. As that less concentration would cause the accident someone else was concentrating on not having. (if you get what i mean)
I mean, obviously a lack of concentration causes accidents, but surely there should be no difference in the level on concentration between riding or driving because everyone should concentrate enough not to have the accidents?!

thulfi 12-02-10 02:17 AM

Re: Which takes more concentration, bike or car?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by metalhead19 (Post 2179502)
I mean, obviously a lack of concentration causes accidents, but surely there should be no difference in the level on concentration between riding or driving because everyone should concentrate enough not to have the accidents?!

If only all cagers had the same philosophy. I fear it takes learning to ride in order to appreciate this point!

metalhead19 12-02-10 02:26 AM

Re: Which takes more concentration, bike or car?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thulfi (Post 2179503)
If only all cagers had the same philosophy. I fear it takes learning to ride in order to appreciate this point!

Haha yeah i agree! riding a bike made me realise how much i didnt used to notice!

beabert 12-02-10 03:01 AM

Re: Which takes more concentration, bike or car?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thulfi (Post 2179503)
If only all cagers had the same philosophy. I fear it takes learning to ride in order to appreciate this point!

Yep, i always shoulder check in a car, the passengers just dont think its neccessary... pfft. I just dont feel its safe moving lanes unless i look, i wouldn't cross the road without looking.

Its the sod everyone else attitude so many have which annoys me.

Milky Bar Kid 12-02-10 08:46 AM

Re: Which takes more concentration, bike or car?
 
Hmmm, it depends entirely on what I am doing. If in a normal day to day situation I would say the bike takes a little bit more concentration but if I am at work and driving in reponse situations, I would say that takes more.

Response driving is a bit like riding a bike, even though you have blue lights and sirens, people still don't see you and/or do something silly! Expect the unexpected.

yorkie_chris 12-02-10 08:50 AM

Re: Which takes more concentration, bike or car?
 
Bike all day long. A car has exactly the same hazard perception requirements, the bike has more complex controls.

wyrdness 12-02-10 08:58 AM

Re: Which takes more concentration, bike or car?
 
I concentrate far more when I'm on the bike. Which probably explains why my car is covered in dents.

EssexDave 12-02-10 09:48 AM

Re: Which takes more concentration, bike or car?
 
In terms of closed road, and actual driving ability. I think Car takes more concentration, as you say its easy to stray in a car. Also having to look around I find in a car more effort than a bike, but I think this is partly because I prefer riding a bike, and it comes more naturally to me (in my opinion)

If we're talking about observations you should be taking, then both should be roughly the same, just obviously get it wrong on a bike and its likely to be worse than in a car.

keith_d 12-02-10 10:01 AM

Re: Which takes more concentration, bike or car?
 
I've been driving cars for ages, so the challenge is not to slip into auto-pilot. The only time I think about the mechanics of driving is when I'm pushing on a bit and need to keep the engine on the cam.

After a year on the bike I'm fairly comfy with the controls but nothing like driving a car. I also have to pay a lot more attention because of the SMIDSY problem. So for me the bike takes much more concentration.

Keith.


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