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fastdruid 28-02-10 11:31 PM

Re: Sintered pads no better than organic...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris (Post 2197561)
No it isn't, ceramic backing is to reduce heat transfer to fluid and prevent fluid fade (boiling) as I understand it.
It actually increases the chance of pad degassing failure by this logic.

I think you need to re-read what I put. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Me
I don't believe it was fluid fade but certainly something the ceramic backing on the OEM pads should help to prevent.

ie ceramic backing should help prevent fluid fade.

Druid

yorkie_chris 28-02-10 11:31 PM

Re: Sintered pads no better than organic...
 
Sorry, that was easy to misinterpret


Yup I notice the same thing. The GG did not have this at all, they were the practically same all the time.

I'm not sure it's heat or water or salt and crap on the disc but it is not as noticeable in summer. That's why I say GG in winter HH in summer :)

punyXpress 01-03-10 11:22 AM

Re: Sintered pads no better than organic...
 
Won't fluid fade result in the lever just going to the bar while degassing will maintain the solid lever feel but no deceleration. ( plus loose bowel feel )

fastdruid 01-03-10 11:32 AM

Re: Sintered pads no better than organic.
 
Yes, thinking about it that would be the case, in my case lever felt fine, just no brakes and full trousers!

Druid

-Ralph- 03-03-10 09:44 AM

Re: Sintered pads no better than organic.
 
EBS GG pads just arrived, but they may be going in the drawer for a while until needed.

There is about 3.5 - 4mm of material on them, I expected them to be thicker.

My pads have about 2mm of material on them, so maybe they are not as low as I thought they were. If that were a car and I already had the callipers off for some other reason (as I currently do on my bike), I'd be changing them before refitting.

When does everybody change their pads?

Have I done well to only use about 2mm off the OEM pads in £22k miles? I'm on my third set of rear brake pads. I don't use the back to stop above 5-10mph, I only drag it to stabilise the bike in situations where that helps.

fastdruid 03-03-10 10:10 AM

Re: Sintered pads no better than organic.
 
I replaced my rear brake pads at ~26k because they were nasty and rusty[1], while I'm possibly under-using my back brakes I'd suggest from 3 sets in 22k you are overusing yours.

Druid

[1] And I got a set of carbon loraines for £1 when carnells shut down.

-Ralph- 03-03-10 10:24 AM

Re: Sintered pads no better than organic.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fastdruid (Post 2199941)
I replaced my rear brake pads at ~26k because they were nasty and rusty[1], while I'm possibly under-using my back brakes I'd suggest from 3 sets in 22k you are overusing yours.

Druid

[1] And I got a set of carbon loraines for £1 when carnells shut down.

Well it's more like 2 sets, the third were only fitted 1000 miles ago. I use a set about every 10-11k miles. How quickly do you go through fronts?

fastdruid 03-03-10 10:32 AM

Re: Sintered pads no better than organic.
 
Not sure exactly, probably about 10-15k but I'm pretty heavy on the brakes and the VFR is a heavy bike.

The pads I took off the SV at 26k were virtually unworn. I use the rear brakes more on the VFR but mostly to try and keep the front wheel vaguely near the ground. ;)

Druid


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