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davepreston 16-12-10 05:29 PM

Re: Asylum seeker hit and run
 
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Originally Posted by Ed (Post 2442499)
All very well saying that they can go with him, but why should they lose their home, their friends, their schooling, and so on? They are British citizens, like it or not, and have a right to be treated just like you or me.

yep there british citizens so they can do as they please, but he isnt and he has forfited his right to stay in this country due to his criminal actions, again it the families choice they can live here which is there right and i have no issue with that, or thay can live with there father in iraq if they want to be with him, "you pays your money you make your choice"

sv4me 16-12-10 05:40 PM

Re: Asylum seeker hit and run
 
The prosecution team for the Border Agency were arguing there was little evidence that the guy actually lived at the family address, was still with the mother or even saw the children on a regular basis. He has basically played the trump card, heres my human rights heres 2 fingers to you and your 'system'

I hope people in this country who still have a working moral compass don't let this lie and make an example of this case. This government said they would sort out the immigration laws, bit feckin late but better late than never. They better deliver :evil:

Kilted Ginger 16-12-10 05:45 PM

Re: Asylum seeker hit and run
 
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Originally Posted by davepreston (Post 2442492)
simple solution
have a imagration rule that if covicted of a crime your deported no matter what the situation

Corrected for you dave

Also i would deport them when convicted so they can serve their sentence in their own country, rather than me having to pay for their bed and board.

davepreston 16-12-10 05:50 PM

Re: Asylum seeker hit and run
 
i know what you mean K.G but anyone can get done for a crime of some kind which doesnt make them a criminal dangerous social threat, but a crime where 5 years is handed out is a serious offence so therefore imho a fair barometer to say ,yes a bad enough crime has been commited to warrent deportation without appeal

-Ralph- 16-12-10 06:08 PM

Re: Asylum seeker hit and run
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by davepreston (Post 2442492)
simple solution
have an immigration rule that if convicted of any crime where criminal intent has been proven, you're deported no matter what the situation

Just my 2p.

If you expect to receive shelter and be welcomed in a country, then you should expect to have to abide by that countries laws.

That's not to say that if you broke a law unintentionally, and are subsequently convicted of a crime that you are a bad person who should be deported.

sv4me 16-12-10 06:09 PM

Re: Asylum seeker hit and run
 
He should have been deported when
> his application failed (will have appealed)

Failing that
> when he was convicted of this crime (4 months for killing someone with your car when banned then doing a runner. Seriously :confused:) as kg says why should we have to foot the bill?

Or 3rd time lucky
> when he came out of prison get him straight on that boat, instead of just letting him disappear

P!ssup, brewery?

philbut 16-12-10 06:12 PM

Re: Asylum seeker hit and run
 
I read he only got 4 months in prison! may have been a typo - I hope it was. Whole story makes me sick, arrogant bastuard drives about haveing previosuly been convicted for driving with no licence, then has the gaul to waste more of our taxes contesting his deportation. I see the argument about the kid, that is fair enough. But what sort of role model is that scum going to be. I think this case sends a very poor message, particularly where a life has been lost and the apparent penalty has been so small.

I really feel for the poor family of the girl.

yorkie_chris 16-12-10 07:20 PM

Re: Asylum seeker hit and run
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed (Post 2442488)
Thuis is a very very hard case. It's desperately sad.

But what good would it do to send this person back to Iraq? It would simply break another family. The scrote might have had a child to avoid being deported but the fact is that the child exists, the child isn't to blame for what happened, and why should that child lose its father?

He's a habitual career criminal and a total scumbag, you think the kid is going to be any worse off being brought up by his mother when the Dad is locked up for something else rather than being sent back to Iraq?

Bluefish 16-12-10 08:11 PM

Re: Asylum seeker hit and run
 
Yup 4 months is what i heard. Convicted of 1 seriouse crime as dave says 5 year prison sentance or 3 strikes of variouse smaller crimes = bye bye one way ticket to Baghdad or wherever.

thefallenangel 16-12-10 08:53 PM

Re: Asylum seeker hit and run
 
TBH i can see the whole argument of "Don't split another family" but perhaps taking the dad away will stop the kids becoming like him and the mother will meet a decent bloke to help her bring the kids up.


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