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454697819 11-02-11 01:23 PM

Re: Breaking up a hardstand
 
Ed,

the other thing to remember is the Skip,

Get one for when you are doing the work, as double handling material is a **** pig of a job and try for a drop end skip so you can wheel barrow the hardcore straight in.

Best of luck.

Bluepete 11-02-11 04:18 PM

Re: Breaking up a hardstand
 
You could have a work party!

Weekend, work, BBQ, beer, sleep.

Pete ;)

davepreston 11-02-11 04:19 PM

Re: Breaking up a hardstand
 
tell the ecosse section theres a quid somewhere underneath it :)

Bluepete 11-02-11 04:24 PM

Re: Breaking up a hardstand
 
Or the Irish section that it's the end of the Rainbow!

Pete ;)

Luckypants 11-02-11 04:24 PM

Re: Breaking up a hardstand
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluepete (Post 2480074)
You could have a work party!

Weekend, work, BBQ, beer, sleep.

Pete ;)

I still have my sledge, pick and trosol :D

Bluepete 11-02-11 04:28 PM

Re: Breaking up a hardstand
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Luckypants (Post 2480083)
trosol :D

I have one of those too. Not sure how to carry it on the Tiger though?

Ah!

An Idea!

Someone needs to supervise and BBQ. I'll volunteer myself. I know it'll be a hard job, but I'm willing to take it for the team...

Pete ;)

Specialone 11-02-11 04:58 PM

Re: Breaking up a hardstand
 
Having done this many times, it does depend on thickness and strength of the concrete.
But two best ways in my opinion...
Get a lifter underneath it and see if it budge a bit, if it will, scrape some dirt out from underneath so you create a void, then smack feck out of it with a sledge in sizeable chunks, if this doesnt work...

12" skilsaw, plug hose on it to keep dust down and cut 2-3 ft sections and then if it doesnt go all the way through smack the joints with the sledge after.

As they are only strips of concrete, a big kango would also probably do this, but it may start breaking into small pieces and take ages.

yorkie_chris 11-02-11 05:30 PM

Re: Breaking up a hardstand
 
I'd stihl saw it into chunks then put breaker in the cuts or just sledgehammer to crack it up.

Breakers aren't that good at breaking up really big solid stuff from scratch, you'll spend a long time making loads of little chips.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Luckypants (Post 2479830)
EDIT: TROSOL translates to 'crowbar' but I have only ever heard it used in relation to a dock-off big metal bar about 6ft long, pointy at one end and a flat lever at the other. A big pinch bar? Anyway, normally use them for making starter holes for fence posts..

We used to call them a digging stick. Dunno the proper word.

embee 11-02-11 05:51 PM

Re: Breaking up a hardstand
 
Another recommendation for the lifter bar and sledge here, 2 man job. If it's hard concrete (probably is) any chisel type breaker smaller than a JCB mounted thing is going to be hard work and very tedious. I've got a hefty Bosch breaker but I wouldn't use it for that job.

Getting it lifted before hitting it is the key, if it's supported under where you hit then the shock stays in compression and the concrete is very strong in compression. You need to get the shock converted into tension in the lower face of the concrete, then it'll crack. Support each end, hit in the middle.

Sir Trev 13-02-11 11:54 AM

Re: Breaking up a hardstand
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir Trev (Post 2479855)
I came home one day to find a Polish man almost reduced to a puddle of sweat after breaking up my old concrete drive (he was a builder and was meant to be doing it). Some of it was over 18 inches thick and he cleared it all in a day with a rather weedy electric kango on his own. Goodness knows how but I'm glad it was not me...

Good luck Ed!!!

Found the pics... Here is said Polish man (Pyotr - the foreman) breaking up the old drive.

http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/...v/IMG_1668.jpg


This is a full size sledge so you get some idea how thick some of the stuff was. Most of it was much thicker!

http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/...v/IMG_1670.jpg


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