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Gibby 06-05-12 09:15 PM

Re: datatool 3 removal
 
Just to let everybody no what I done to sort this out. First off I take no responsibility if you do what I did and it goes pear shaped.
As above I removed the alarm, I bridged the wire they cut on the solenoid And took off all the wires spliced into the loom, removed wires from the fuse box and earth connection these were all the wires used for the alarm.
The problem I had was when I put the ignition on the fuel pump did not prime and where the temp comes up it said "chec" engine would turn over but nothing else.
Through searching on the internet I found out that the orange/green wire (which was spliced) is connected to the orange/white(which was spliced) via a black wire which must have been removed when they installed the alarm I just joined these two wires together spliced in about 4" length of wire to create the loop and up and running I was. Hopefully someone will confirm this is correct and help persons in the future.
Regards Gareth

admin 16-06-12 03:56 PM

Re: datatool 3 removal?
 
Gibby
This is interesting. I have just removed my datatool 3 for the same reasons as you. I too have a problem with the pump priming. You've given me a clue as to where to look next. Thanks

admin 17-06-12 10:09 AM

Re: datatool 3 removal?
 
My wiring is somewhat different. There's no alarm connection to a blue wire. The single black wire you show in your diagram with a connector was used to provide power to the alarm via it's inline fuse. Looking at my spare wiring loom it must have been used for something not present on the UK model.

I tried the bypass you mentioned about but no joy from the fuel pump.

I've pulled so much of the loom apart that I've now bitten the bullet and started to take the entire loom out. I'll put in my spare and hopefully that will sort it out.

:(

admin 17-06-12 11:06 AM

Re: datatool 3 removal?
 
Argh! The new wiring loom has a different plug for the fuel pump. Four wires instead of three. Only noticed when after I pulled out the old loom and started connecting the new one.

I give up! Time to have a think.

admin 18-06-12 11:35 AM

Re: datatool 3 removal?
 
Old loom back in place. I'm now back where I started at 9am this morning. I thought I'd checked all the plugs on the new loom. Apparently not.

I need to get this sorted, so off to a datatool dealer I think who knows more about this than I.

admin 19-06-12 09:45 AM

Re: datatool 3 removal?
 
Fixed it!

Yesterday I organised for a local bike dealer pick up the bike, so that meant putting it back together last night.

I thought I'd have one last play. The block that Gibby shows on the first post, the one with 4 black wires had taps from the alarm on all four wires. I cut off the taps and as there was no break in the original wiring all that was required was some insulation.

Right next to this 4 way block is another single black wire with a connector, again with no real purpose (although I didn't twig this over the weekend). This is also shown on Gibbys post only mine had the connector chopped off and was connected to the alarm via an inline fuse. I assumed that this wire was a 'drop in' and needed bridging to it's original other half, but of course there is no other half to connect too. So being black I assumed it connected to one of the black wires on the 4 way block next to it (too many blacks). So I tested each black wire on the block and the relay burst into life on one connection. This was fine until you turned off the ignition and back on again. This resulted in no working relay and a flashing FI light. Damn.

Last night I decided to ignore the single black wire. It is wired back to the ignition circuit but it's not meant to be used for this purpose. I decided to look for another source of 12v to feed to the identified black wire in the 4 way block that activated the relay. I checked the three other black wires in the block, one was earthed and another was 12v. I joined that to the good relay wire and again I got a burst of life from the relay. The test with the ignition switch also worked fine. Success? I hope so.

Now I'd tried the connections on the 4 way block before. They were obviously connected to the alarm, but I think in my bumbling, I had blown the 10a fuel fuse and therefore missed this answer the first time round.

So I made a permanent connection on these two wires and tied up the loom as well as recovering in PVC tape. I then connected up all the remaining connections to the loom in the rear of the bike, indicators, etc and checked all was well. It was. The engine was run and I waited for it to falter should the fuel pump stop. It didn't. I then made the bike ready to ride and went for ride around the village. No issues.

The only niggle I can see is that if I stop the engine on the kill switch, after a second or so the FI light starts flashing. The bike still starts and the light goes out. I suspect the I still have the wrong 12v feed to the relay, or at least I've taken it off the wrong part of the circuit. But I can live with it if it causes no other issues.

Again comparing with Gibby. My blue wire was untouched, they used the brown instead on the fuse/relay block. Brown seems to supply 12v to the lighting circuits.

I still find myself double taking before I switching on the ignition or removing the seat, i'm so conditioned to thinking about disarming the alarm before I touch the bike.

John

admin 20-06-12 10:59 AM

Re: datatool 3 removal?
 
More electrical problems last night. Rear brake light not coming on. Traced that to me failing to connect the switch to the loom.

Front brake light intermittent causing the rear light to flash in a strange strobing way. This was down to the actual switch. This is a sealed utit but managed to spray enough contact cleaner into it to get it to work properly.

Rode the bike into Shrewsbury office today. No issues. All other electrics seemed fine.


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