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keith_d

12-01-13 12:47 AM

Re: Pillion Helmet Responsibility (Rider or Pillion)?

Google found this on the Staffordshire police website:

"It is your responsibility to ensure that the pillion passenger wears a correctly fitted and fastened helmet."

But, given that the rider has no way of seeing whether the pillion has their helmet on once the bike is under way you'd have to look for recent cases to see what the courts have actually decided.

IIRC the driver of a car can be prosecuted for carrying a front seat passenger without a seat belt, but not for rear seat passengers because there's no reasonable way for him to ascertain whether they are actually wearing their seat belts.

Hopefully someone who actually knows what the current position really is can come along and enlighten us.

MisterTommyH

12-01-13 01:42 AM

Re: Pillion Helmet Responsibility (Rider or Pillion)?

As has been said before. The driver has responsibility for ensuring they and any minors are wearing a seatbelt. Adults are responsible for themselves.

It says so here.

NTECUK

12-01-13 07:58 AM

Re: Pillion Helmet Responsibility (Rider or Pillion)?

Be a nit though if you knowingly let someone on the back without a skid .
It should be a fine points and kick in ya nuts ...
Nb if the straps not fastened its also a nick.
Something the pilot would have a job to confirm...

Sir Trev

12-01-13 06:03 PM

Re: Pillion Helmet Responsibility (Rider or Pillion)?

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTECUK (Post 2817547)

Be a nit though if you knowingly let someone on the back without a skid .

This

It would be just asking for a pull. If the pillion took their lid off without you knowing you might just get away with it but who in their right mind would do so, knowing you'd be likely to get a pull... Unless they wanted to be on World's Scariest Chases, hosted by Sherriff Looks-Good-On-Camera who can't pronounce our place names properly. Ever hear him trying to say Newtownards? Priceless!

suzukigt380paul

13-01-13 07:45 PM

Re: Pillion Helmet Responsibility (Rider or Pillion)?

so how do you get on if you have a turban,are you exempt!

Terah

13-01-13 07:57 PM

Re: Pillion Helmet Responsibility (Rider or Pillion)?

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzukigt380paul (Post 2818053)

so how do you get on if you have a turban,are you exempt!

If you are a Sikh, yes.

https://www.gov.uk/rules-motorcyclis...dance-83-to-88

suzukigt380paul

13-01-13 08:01 PM

Re: Pillion Helmet Responsibility (Rider or Pillion)?

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Originally Posted by Terah (Post 2818060)

If you are a Sikh, yes.

https://www.gov.uk/rules-motorcyclis...dance-83-to-88

so no acu sticker needed then

Spank86

14-01-13 04:56 PM

Re: Pillion Helmet Responsibility (Rider or Pillion)?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bibio (Post 2817492)

wrong it's the responsibility of the driver at all times as is a pillion wearing a helmet.

thought that was only for the front seat?

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