While I don't disagree about them being pointless, your argument against them is a little simplistic. I can control the power of the SV quite well (even if it's the only bit I can control) and wheelies are just a bit of fun to be had now and then.
Getting your knee down is a different matter. It can be a genuine racing technique and although it's unnecessary on the road I don't have a problem with people doing it in general. It doesn't mean you went in too fast at all. You'll find that alot of the time those people putting their knee down are more aware of their entry speed than those who don't.

I used to get my knee down all the time when I used to race MiniMoto, does that count ? :wink:

I would like to achive this myself, but I realise this will take some time getting more experience and confidence on the bike.
That said its not really a big deal to me, if I never achieve it I won't be on my death bed thinking "sh%t I nver got my knee down".

I do feel uneasy about doing it on public roads though.

Was being sarcy carsick, reaqd the small prints :wink:

d'oh, I saw the last bit but didn't think you'd meant about the whole thing.

is that when

you got off the bike :wink: :lol: .




never been that intrested in wheelies & stuff your more of a "real" biker if you wear the correct gear & improve your handling skillls imo. so if you want to be a "real" biker do iam & bike safe.

Agreed thats how I see it, can I do it can I b*l*x its fun trying though

After 18yrs of riding bikes, I can honestly say I've never done a wheelie or got my knee down. Does this make me an incomplete biker? I don't think so - my "fear threshhold" is too low to try and I'm worried about trashing my bike (and myself) in trying!

I think it comes down to the old adage: "ride within your limits" - if, like me, you don't have the nervous disposition/confidence/ability/carefree attitude to self preservation that is required to keep "pushing the envelope" then so be it, if you do, good luck to you!

I would question the sense of getting that far over on public roads in any case, though, as you certainly don't have an exit strategy (except crash) at that level lof commitment.

Just the author's opinion and not necessarily that of the "management" of course!

That's what I was thinking.
If you want to be a real biker, just ride your bike; that's all it takes.

I'd say ride your bike with confidence as often as possible.

I recently learnt to get my knee down, and im currently doing it quite often, when its safe to. Hence buying Cloggsy's sparkies :D For me its just exciting. And tbh i think im quicker sat on the bike properly than when im getting my knee down.