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Ceri JC 24-08-07 08:23 AM

Re: Replacement oil for a Scottoiler
 
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Originally Posted by Blue_SV650S (Post 1269891)
People have reported that they have seen no detrimental effects after doing just that mind, so fine – but personally for the sake of £3.50 for 4 litres (enough to last forever) I just put fresh NEW oil through and have the peace of mind! :)

Ah, it's not just the cost though, using old oil has the fringe benefit of getting rid of your old oil by spreading it over the roads, which means fewer trips to the dump to get dispose of it.:-dd :thumright:

Grinch 24-08-07 08:30 AM

Re: Replacement oil for a Scottoiler
 
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Blue_SV650S 24-08-07 08:47 AM

Re: Replacement oil for a Scottoiler
 
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Originally Posted by Ceri JC (Post 1269941)
Ah, it's not just the cost though, using old oil has the fringe benefit of getting rid of your old oil by spreading it over the roads, which means fewer trips to the dump to get dispose of it.:-dd :thumright:

I hear that - remember I use USED oil on my chain ... I just don't use a scott oiler to apply it! ;)

Spanner Man 24-08-07 09:32 AM

Re: Replacement oil for a Scottoiler
 
Morning all.

Let's put a stop to this, & just say tight Gits use old engine oil, slightly less tight Gits use new engine oil, & everyone else use the proper stuff:D

Steelman, give me a yell when you need some rubbers

Cheers.

jambo 24-08-07 11:04 AM

Re: Replacement oil for a Scottoiler
 
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Originally Posted by Blue_SV650S (Post 1269891)
Sure, but I am not sure running old contaminated oil is a good idea, it will have particles in it, including 'filings' that I can’t believe is going to do the internal seals etc any favours! ... it will also have 'sludge' .. not sure I'd want to put that rubbish through any ‘system’?

I would suggest that after 4,000 miles if your "old" engine oil is full of particles and sludge you may have found it was doing the engine very few favours. For what it's worth I've found it fine on my chains, but from a local shop such as HG Scottoil's not that expensive, and you shouldn't be getting through it all that quickly anyway :cool:

Blue_SV650S 24-08-07 11:25 AM

Re: Replacement oil for a Scottoiler
 
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Originally Posted by jambo (Post 1270134)
I would suggest that after 4,000 miles if your "old" engine oil is full of particles and sludge you may have found it was doing the engine very few favours. For what it's worth I've found it fine on my chains, but from a local shop such as HG Scottoil's not that expensive, and you shouldn't be getting through it all that quickly anyway :cool:

However vigilant you are with doing your changes on time, sludge and filings end up in the bottom of the sump over time ... when you drain the oil, some come out ... if you then use that 'saved' oil, it is gonna have these bits in it ...

Sid Squid 24-08-07 12:40 PM

Re: Replacement oil for a Scottoiler
 
Still, after nearly 100,000 miles on this bike, (and it wasn't new when I fitted it, it was on a previous bike), the great majority of which with used oil in it, any concerns over the use of old oil have been demonstrated not to be well founded.

If there's lumps in your oil, you could fit a filter to your bike. And if you still find there are then they'll fall to the bottom of the can when you store the oil anyway - but I haven't.

Blue_SV650S 24-08-07 12:57 PM

Re: Replacement oil for a Scottoiler
 
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Originally Posted by Sid Squid (Post 1270246)
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There can’t NOT be sludge … it’s a build up of clutch friction plate material (plates wear, the friction material goes somewhere ;)), carbon deposits, water etc etc … same with filings, metal stuff is spinning/meshing filings WILL come to be … when the bike is in motion some of this is picked up in the filter, when the bike is left standing, whatever is sitting in the oil can then fall to the bottom under gravity (presuming it is heavier than the oil!!). All this just builds up over time into a sludge as it is not all removed at oil change …

Anyhoo, the overriding fact is that you have used it with no detriment, so my action of only using NEW oil is indeed over precautionary it would seem!! 8) … to be fair, it is interesting to know, but I’d still only use NEW (be it cheap) oil even after you have submitted your evidence!! :D - its just a personal choice!!

But I reiterate, I don’t use a scottoiler any more, but do use USED oil on my chain :)

Biker Biggles 24-08-07 01:02 PM

Re: Replacement oil for a Scottoiler
 
But all that sludge and the filings might be damaging your chain.Even if you brush it on.


Legs it and hides.;)

Blue_SV650S 24-08-07 01:20 PM

Re: Replacement oil for a Scottoiler
 
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Originally Posted by Biker Biggles (Post 1270279)
But all that sludge and the filings might be damaging your chain.Even if you brush it on.


Legs it and hides.;)

4-sure, but then I figure all the road dust and muck is nasty too ;) ... also oil 'flings' from the chain taking all the muck with it - hence why I prefer to chain lube! :)


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