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aarond 11-05-11 08:24 PM

Re: My little SV based project
 
wow

Todge 16-05-11 07:00 PM

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Heres a bit of a bigger update for you guys this time. Its always nice to hear your comments.


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-MZ54uSlgYc...+Project+5.jpg

If you head over to http://moto-rdesign.blogspot.com there's more photos and descriptions about whats gone on since last time.

RichT 16-05-11 07:11 PM

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Nice!

AndyBrad 16-05-11 07:15 PM

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nice! well done chap!

Geodude 16-05-11 07:24 PM

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That is fantastic, i do hope its going to get used and not looked at :D

barwel1992 16-05-11 07:35 PM

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very nice, althogh the tail should stick up just a bit more

yorkie_chris 16-05-11 07:43 PM

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Nah I think the tail looks fine with respect to the rest of it, maybe a bit more swingarm angle.

barwel1992 16-05-11 07:56 PM

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^ yeh although would be better to see the bike on level and not on stand

xXBADGERXx 16-05-11 07:58 PM

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Bugger me into next week , that`s slightly tasty that is

yorkie_chris 16-05-11 08:07 PM

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It is rather nice :)

How much does the frame weigh, how much does the tank hold, does it use the stock airbox or is it ramair... etc etc
So many questions :)

Runako 16-05-11 08:21 PM

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V nice! Where do you live again? Seriously though, keep it up man. One question. You built a custom bike. Why not get some badass wheels on that? There are so many reasons why you should! :)

xXBADGERXx 16-05-11 08:22 PM

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Cos he has bigger Fish to fry right now

yorkie_chris 16-05-11 08:22 PM

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I quite like the idea of "this is what you can build with a donor SV, a few hours on eBay, and a kit from us". Dripping everything in exotica makes it seem unreachable.

xXBADGERXx 16-05-11 08:23 PM

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Yeah , leave the pimp goodies for those with deeper pockets

kaivalagi 16-05-11 08:27 PM

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Deep pockets or not that is tasty, it has that nice chiselled fairing look that I want an RC8 for :)

TamSV 16-05-11 08:28 PM

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That's brilliant. :love:

Agree the tail works with the lines.

I see you ditched the SV front end - good shout. :D

Your original swingarm design would be degrees of awesomeness better than the curvy item.

xXBADGERXx 16-05-11 08:34 PM

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Aye , have a look at a Yamaha SDR 200 swingarm , imagine a beefier one of those on your project :)

Todge 16-05-11 08:49 PM

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The frame will weigh approx 8 - 9kg when the final one is done in Reynolds 631 tubing. Tank capacity is currently 10.8 litres on the CAD model, but Id like to get this a bit bigger if possible, as there is a bit of extra room under the tank cover. At the moment its the stock airbox, though long term the intention is to create some air inlet ducts and a new airbox, but it can be run as standard for now.

Runako 16-05-11 08:50 PM

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Sorry to disagree chaps but, what? Dripping in exotica? Here's a link to some Marvic Magnesium Wheels that cost less than £800. Considering that stock is £500 this is not exactly an "exotic" price is it! Anyway isn't the aim to improve both looks and performance? So why not get lighter, better looking wheels?

yorkie_chris 16-05-11 08:53 PM

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Compared to £100 for a GSXR wheel on ebay I reckon £800 for the rear and £600 for a front is pretty pricey!

xXBADGERXx 16-05-11 09:02 PM

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The guy isn`t an endless money pit , if your feeling that flush then buy him a set and donate them to him then Runako

andrewsmith 16-05-11 09:07 PM

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I think for the process of design the stock suzuki items are spot on.

Todge did you consider the underseat as a design?
Not criticizing as the GSXR1000 Style end can looks the part

Runako 16-05-11 09:16 PM

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Well he's not just looking for scrap parts is he? A great deal of the bike is custom. Its had a front end swap which is an improvement. If the aim was to get the best out of the SV then, with the front end change, you can go the full hog with the susp. & that would cost a bit. GSXR wheels of eBay are not magnesium, lightweight or new for that matter. If this an example, i don't see that as an exorbitant expense. Anyway its up to the man himself ultimately. Isn't is great to have an opinion?

Runako 16-05-11 09:19 PM

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xXBADGERXx, didn't you just suggest a Yamaha SDR 200 swingarm swap? What, those are free these days? Look, i just made a suggestion. Does anyone know how much Todge has to spend? I don't. Of course there are priorities but a better set of wheels is achievable - whether GSXR or Marvic :)

xXBADGERXx 16-05-11 09:21 PM

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No , I said have a LOOK at one , his original design featured a trellised swingarm , and I said "Imagine having a beefier version of that one the bike" .

andrewsmith 16-05-11 09:22 PM

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Runako are you suggesting a 180 rear wheel conversion?
Do you know how much work is involved with that?

Badger suggested basing a swingarm on the SDR200 design

Runako 16-05-11 09:22 PM

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Which would mean what, making one right? For the record, i agree. Lets see what Todge thinks.

And no Andrew, just better wheels than stock.

yorkie_chris 16-05-11 10:10 PM

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I would not want marvics or whatever on a road bike.

andrewsmith 16-05-11 10:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Runako (Post 2539294)
Which would mean what, making one right? For the record, i agree. Lets see what Todge thinks.

And no Andrew, just better wheels than stock.

So your talking race wheels which would be scrap after 500 miles and 1 pothole. If were talking changes from stock, you talking thing like ER6 and Kawa hoops which would require alot of measurement and fabrication to get right.

yorkie_chris 16-05-11 10:19 PM

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Just use 06> GSXR wheels, simple bit of machining and new spacers and it is done. Zoran sells kit. Very easy.

toby_smith 16-05-11 11:06 PM

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How much do you want for it? I'll give you a pack of fags, a leaking 2 tonne trolley jack and my old dressing gown? Deal? When will it be delivered?

andrewsmith 16-05-11 11:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by toby_smith (Post 2539364)
How much do you want for it? I'll give you a pack of fags, a leaking 2 tonne trolley jack and my old dressing gown? Deal? When will it be delivered?

Bugger slightly better than my offer

Runako 17-05-11 12:47 AM

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Well I'll get the Marvics for my "road bike" Lol :) I don't make it a habit of finding potholes on the road and I seem to remember forged magnesium being tougher than the cast steel stuff.

Jeez, so many negatives. You can't do this or that's too hard. The reason this thread is so interesting is because this guy is doing something that not many people can/will do. I don't think a set of wheels is going to be his biggest obstacle. Look at the work he did with the design and fairing.

Anyway, my contribution was to suggest new wheels and at least I pointed out an alternative to stock that won't require alteration. You guys know much more about other stuff so i'll let you get on with giving Todge some more constructive feedback.

xXBADGERXx 17-05-11 05:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Runako (Post 2539391)
Well I'll get the Marvics for my "road bike" Lol :) I don't make it a habit of finding potholes on the road and I seem to remember forged magnesium being tougher than the cast steel stuff.

Go and do some homework and report back with your findings later on

yorkie_chris 17-05-11 05:25 PM

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He has cast steel wheels on his SV? :-P

xXBADGERXx 17-05-11 05:26 PM

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Shhhhh!!!

Runako 17-05-11 06:24 PM

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Cast aluminium smartasses (homework done)! The point remains.

Anyway, why not better wheels if its within budget? Most of us are obviously ltd by budget but no matter what you buy it only takes one "off" to form a black hole in one's bank a/c.

You've all improved your own bikes. Some of you have two bikes (Chris) and some race. That's all money. So why hate on a suggestion for lighter, stronger wheels wheels? This is a bit off topic anyway. Looking forward to seeing your suggestions and comments for the rest of Todge's build.

xXBADGERXx 17-05-11 06:43 PM

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Homework not even close , Magnesium Wheels are far more brittle than their Aluminium counterparts .

Runako 17-05-11 07:41 PM

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Sigh, this is boring now ... had a look on the net before replying did we?

Ok then - not all aluminium wheels are of the same grade or strength. This is obvious from the properties of forged v cast alu wheels.

Forged mag can be stronger than cast alu (i.e. stock SV wheels) due to the method of production. Forged alu of a similar or near weight to forged mag can be stronger - correct. The key is in the weight differential and production method.

This discussion was about forged mag over cast SV alu wheels. Even cast mag may be stronger depending on weight. Unless you're gonna get really technical, lets move on as this discussion is pointless.

Its all down to personal choice. I respect your choice. You can respect my preference and we can leave it at that.

xXBADGERXx 17-05-11 07:43 PM

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I didn`t have to look it up on the net at all so don`t be so condescending , having been around bikes for over 20 years to tend to pick up bits of info . In fact Yorkie Chris and I were discussing Magnesium Wheels in my Kitchen 2 weeks ago and nowhere near a PC .


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