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Bibio 10-12-09 01:56 PM

Re: Soldering for Dummies
 
don't think there are any true 'wrought iron' blacksmiths left. its all mild steel these days.

ok so i'll rephrase the 'blacksmith' (even though we also done anvil work) part and say 'fabricator/erector'.

timwilky 10-12-09 02:31 PM

Re: Soldering for Dummies
 
Agree wrought is not commercially available these days. It was the malleability that made it the ideal material for true forge work. Sadly mild steel does not have the same qualities

Alpinestarhero 10-12-09 02:47 PM

Re: Soldering for Dummies
 
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Originally Posted by timwilky (Post 2120879)
Agree wrought is not commercially available these days. It was the malleability that made it the ideal material for true forge work. Sadly mild steel does not have the same qualities

What makes a "mild" steel? How are other steels classified?

timwilky 10-12-09 02:50 PM

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Steels are really down to the carbon content. You will normally hear of mild being described as low carbon steel. But the metallurgy is a science in its own right.

Just google iron carbon equilibrium diagrams and start to get baffled as you start looking at martensite, perlilite. Wonder about austentetic phases etc.

Bibio 10-12-09 02:51 PM

Re: Soldering for Dummies
 
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Originally Posted by Alpinestarhero (Post 2120897)
What makes a "mild" steel? How are other steels classified?

amongst other things carbon and impurity content.

bit long winded but easy to understand:

http://www.istc.illinois.edu/info/li...s/chapter2.htm

DanAbnormal 10-12-09 03:08 PM

Re: Soldering for Dummies
 
In the US they like to SODDER!!

Weirdos.

Alpinestarhero 10-12-09 03:17 PM

Re: Soldering for Dummies
 
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Originally Posted by DanAbnormal (Post 2120916)
In the US they like to SODDER!!

Weirdos.

they like to do that in brighton too

huhwhateh?

yorkie_chris 10-12-09 04:24 PM

Re: Soldering for Dummies
 
Just get some bits of wire and see how it works, it's not particularly hard.

Just make sure your metal is clean and slide the heatshrink onto the wire before soldering the wires.

(and don't leave the heatshrink too close to the joint, or try to slide it on until the joint has cooled.)
I find a simple butane lighter the easiest way to heatshrink tubing, I find the iron is too harsh.

ophic 10-12-09 04:31 PM

Re: Soldering for Dummies
 
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Originally Posted by yorkie_chris (Post 2120985)
slide the heatshrink onto the wire before soldering the wires.

Double check this. I constantly forget - along with any connectors or covers that need to go there too. Soldering, swearing, desoldering and soldering again makes a mess. And sods law says that the first solder job is always incredibly neat. :mad:

Quiff Wichard 10-12-09 04:34 PM

Re: Soldering for Dummies
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris (Post 2120985)
Just get some bits of wire and see how it works, it's not particularly hard.

Just make sure your metal is clean and slide the heatshrink onto the wire before soldering the wires.

(and don't leave the heatshrink too close to the joint, or try to slide it on until the joint has cooled.)
I find a simple butane lighter the easiest way to heatshrink tubing, I find the iron is too harsh.


just what me was gonna say .. few times when conecting my autocomm etc I have forgot to slide the heatshrink over first and keep it wel away from the joint.. so tried to cut it down it length after and wrap it on and then shrink it and it doesnt work.

so make sure you slide the heat shrink on and down the wire first ASH .. and yea butane lighter way easiest way to shrink it on.... self almalgamating tape is good too,,. me use that first then heat shrink


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