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Re: Who owns my bike? Registered keeper/owner?

It does seem an odd thing that our legal system isn't particularly interested in who owns stuff. Apart from real-estate (Ed will correct me if wrong) it doesn't seem that anything much has any formal record of "ownership". The law seems only to be interested in who does what with it.

Which leads me on, is there actually an offence of "TWOC", (taking without the owner's consent) or is that just short-hand for some more eloquently phrased offence? I'm thinking how does the Plod determine who the "Owner" is, it's not enough to just ask the "keeper", and do they ask for proof of ownership when asking or just assume (always dangerous) that the keeper is the owner? All probably irrelevant. :smt102

I am reminded of when I had a company car "stolen" off my drive, the Plod asked if I had given anyone permission to take it. Yes I know it's protocol, but it just amused me that I might have given permission for someone to screwdriver the door and barrel at 3am, throw out the parcel shelf, and proceed to drive it through a shop front to steal a load of jeans. I was the keeper but not the owner, as far as I know the Plod never contacted the owner.

I believe (also probably wrongly) that you do "legally" own a dog, but you don't legally own a cat.

Re: Who owns my bike? Registered keeper/owner?

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Originally Posted by B1k3R (Post 2409461)

If it is symbol does Prince own it then?

Nah, he's just the registered keeper

/I'll see myself out

Re: Who owns my bike? Registered keeper/owner?

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Originally Posted by embee (Post 2409784)

Which leads me on, is there actually an offence of "TWOC", (taking without the owner's consent) or is that just short-hand for some more eloquently phrased offence? I'm thinking how does the Plod determine who the "Owner" is, it's not enough to just ask the "keeper", and do they ask for proof of ownership when asking or just assume (always dangerous) that the keeper is the owner? All probably irrelevant. :smt102

It's a matter of claim, if the suspected TWOCer were to claim it was his/her vehicle the Police would ask why it was not registered in their name. Any reasonable claim is taken seriously in such circumstances, and appropriately investigated.

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Originally Posted by embee (Post 2409784)

I believe (also probably wrongly) that you do "legally" own a dog, but you don't legally own a cat.

You can't own a cat - they won't let you.

Re: Who owns my bike? Registered keeper/owner?

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Originally Posted by phi-dan (Post 2409839)

Nah, he's just the registered keeper

/I'll see myself out

:D Class.

Re: Who owns my bike? Registered keeper/owner?

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Originally Posted by Sid Squid (Post 2410055)

You can't own a cat - they won't let you.

I owned the stray that kept coming into the garage and ****ing on my stuff...

...with a broom and a supersoaker...:smt070