Re: Which (cheap) crash bungs?
 

that theory does not work unless you are over 21 and in the lower risk insurance group if i had claimed on my insurance for my spill last week it would have cost me substantially more insurance next year, its cost me £100 in repairs if i did not have the bungs it would have cost £300 for the rad alone so would have had to get insurance involved and that would end with my paying about £500 more next year for insurance

i think i will stick with using bungs ;)

Re: Which (cheap) crash bungs?
 

You're on crack, or you've never owned an SV. Especially a naked.

When the radiator has just been ripped in half from a lowside with no kerbs or road furniture involved (newsflash, experienced riders have these too!) ... you telling me you would rather spend £500 from suzuki or go through your insurance (who'd write it off) and cost you £1000+ in excess, and increased premiums for 5 years?

On curvy tanks and radiators are prone to damage, which crash bungs can avoid. And also let you ride the bike home!


Also this point about crash bungs flipping the bike over on hitting a kerb. True, however you have to question the damage to everything if an un-slidered bike did the same thing. Kerbstone will flip any bike sliders or not.

I do not think there is any case against sliders except for racetrack where a slide on grass is more likely and sliders tend to dig in and flip it.


Point about £150 crash bungs necessarily being better than cheap ones is also just plain wrong, being that we're on an SV650 forum the expensive offering is worse than the cheap one!

Another one for you is the sliders for numerous GSXRs and sports bikes are exactly the same design whoever you buy them off, be that Mr £20 eBay merchant, or R+G for £100+.

Experienced riders? Give me a break, falling off is falling off. The sort of "newb walking pace" crash you describe would not do any damage anyway beyond a few scratches.

Basically I disagree with your entire argument :)

See above point about the finances of insurance excess and premiums. You must have more money than me to think like that.

Massive chunky bracket of earlier design was crap. Bung folds up because it has a radius cut in the back of it which stresses bolt and causes it to fail.

Re: Which (cheap) crash bungs?
 

so the ones i have that sit flat against the frame are the better to have ?

PS +1 to every thing YC said

PPS i have a naked so could be different for a faired bike

Re: Which (cheap) crash bungs?
 

If you do decide to fit bungs as I have.

Ensure you tourque them correctly;).

Re: Which (cheap) crash bungs?
 

And try not to crash!:D

Re: Which (cheap) crash bungs?
 

i buy fully comp and in the event of a spill its up to them to repair or pay out, being an old fart has its advantages. ok so i might have to add a couple hundred quid to a new one if its written off but thats life.

maybe maybe not i dont know how well off you are.

Re: Which (cheap) crash bungs?
 

[QUOTE=yorkie_chris;2431642]You're on crack, or you've never owned an SV. Especially a naked.

SV's came out long after i wanted a bike of this size, im tall and they are uncomfortably short in the legroom dept.

So like most people on here the answer is - No i dont own an SV

I prefer my KTM Supermoto.

Anyone can crash its just that experienced people crash less, funnily enough! I have never claimed on a policy but if i did its a trade policy so wouldnt affect any no claims anyway.

Yorkie chris your quote "The sort of "newb walking pace" crash you describe would not do any damage anyway beyond a few scratches."

What a load of ********, If you fall off and "scratch the frame through the paint that will write an SV off, just like the crash bung denting the frame mounting point would too"

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Frame does not touch down on an SV in a normal drop; tank, radiator, fairings, footpegs, bar ends touch first.

If you scratch frame through paint insurance will write it off, but any sensible person will go "oh look, a scratch, that's not worth claiming for".

Crash bungs do not dent the frame mounting point, they go into the cast ally center section of frame and these points are directly bolted into the engine. The alloy is basically just a spacer and not really under stress* in a drop.

*From the bung

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I do not have couple hundred quid for fully comp insurance never mind excess claiming from little crashes :p

Examples of my crashes and costs involved

First one: radiator, brake lever, indicators, headlights, bars. £200+

Comparable crash 2 years later with motosliders, swingarm sliders and handguards cost me one footpeg (£8!)

Re: Which (cheap) crash bungs?
 

The cheap bungs for the fully faired pointy must be avoided at all costs, they rely on the original and feeble steel bracket that is designed only to support the fairing. Putting lots of force into this will bend it, and crack the fairing at the same time. The R&G bungs are a bit pricey but they have at least thought about the design as it comes with extremely chunky alloy brackets supported from two points on the frame. Also check out the price of new lower fairings from Suzuki and the R&G bungs don't look like such a bad deal.

For the bar ends, fork sliders and swing arm cotton reels it's less important as the mounting are all very similar.

Matt; I know several experienced bikers who have dropped a bike when simply pushing it into the garage or at a petrol station etc. It's very easy to overbalance in these situations and all you can do is put the bike down as gently as possible.