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Specialone 23-10-11 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Owenski (Post 2618978)
Not really a Fan of the racing but morbidly made an effort to view the incident after speaking with Tom who told me the riders lid came off which I found astonishing.
Having seen it now all I can say is thank f**k the poor bugger knew nothing about it.
RIP

At the time, I was watching live, they said, (now wrongly) that he had come round a bit and were due to let them out again at 4.30pm local time for the sighting / warm up lap then for a 4.45pm restart, this was cancelled not long after.
After 45 mins of CPR he was pronounced dead at 16.56 local, the GP medical director said he had suffered major trauma to head, neck and chest so thankfully it seems he felt no pain.

enzoalex 24-10-11 12:07 AM

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RIP Marco

I feel bad for Edwards and Rossi also, they must be devastated.

thulfi 24-10-11 02:32 AM

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RIP.

So sad, the guy seemed like an absolute dude as well.

My guess is he would have been knocked out the second his helmet came off - how many boxing blows worth of force into one to do that. He would for sure have been concussed, which means he didn't feel it at least.

Thoughts go out to his family and friends.

darylB 24-10-11 07:26 AM

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A sad and tragic loss for motorcycling, but why no mention of it on any of the news?. RIP Marco.

Daryl.

daveyrach 24-10-11 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by darylB (Post 2619008)
A sad and tragic loss for motorcycling, but why no mention of it on any of the news?. RIP Marco.

Daryl.

There was on Sky News not long after it happened and BBC sport.

Horrific crash i saw it live, made me feel sick to my stomach thinking he is only mu age, i can't imagine leaving my wife and kids behind at such a young age.

T33OWL 24-10-11 08:00 AM

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He was a brilliant racer, so unfortunate... I spent a little time looking back at his career in GP's...
http://www.stayontheblack.com/paying...-as-super-sic/

Pedrosa 24-10-11 08:50 AM

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Such a tragic loss.So strange how his bike veered across track like that,maybe due to his doing his upmost to try and make it kick back upright initially?

Controversial on occasions yes, but a true racer not a bland fast lap producer that so many of the Moto GP boys of today are.That boy could race and battle. He was perfectly set to fully take on the role of the charismatic personality when Valentino finally bows out.

The whole thing is just so bad,what must Valentino be thinking knowing that unfortunately it was the impact of his bike with his great friend which caused his bseverest of injuries?
A terrible ,terrible moment for the sport.

flymo 24-10-11 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by darylB (Post 2619008)
A sad and tragic loss for motorcycling, but why no mention of it on any of the news?. RIP Marco.

Daryl.

Its been on the news all day Sunday.

ogden 24-10-11 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Pedrosa (Post 2619029)
Such a tragic loss.So strange how his bike veered across track like that,maybe due to his doing his upmost to try and make it kick back upright initially?

The front-end washed out, he fought to keep it up, and partly succeeded - the front tyre found grip, stopped the slide, and put the bike back on course. Unfortunately, by the time that happened, Rossi and Edwards were exactly where the bike was trying to go.

If he'd just let it slide, he'd still be alive. But he didn't - that wasn't the kind of rider he was - and so it ended the way it did.

****ing bad luck.

flymo 24-10-11 09:10 AM

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From what I could see he practically fell off the inside of the bike due to the initial slide, it happens. Most likely his foot slipped off the inside footpeg. At that point he had no control over the bike and it went were the laws of physics wanted to take it. At those speeds and proximity, Edwards and Rossi could do nothing about it, I doubt Rossi even knew it was happening until the impact as he would have been unsighted and focussing on passing Edwards.

A very unfortunate freak accident.

carelesschucca 24-10-11 11:37 AM

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Still don't really know what to say, I've sat fighting back tears since yesterday morning. So its just going to be.
Thank you Supersic you were a bright light in GP's you gave us so many good moments in your short career. Gonna miss you RIP.

carelesschucca 24-10-11 11:38 AM

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Riders reactions if any of you are interested;

http://www.bikesportnews.com/news-de...li&newsid=5946

cbay 24-10-11 11:47 AM

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I'm still shocked a day later, its such a shame! I think he was going to grow and grow in the sport...

maviczap 24-10-11 12:55 PM

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So sad as there's a quick 10mins interview with him in this months Fast Bikes

Ciao Marco, your was a flame that burned bright for a short time

ThEGr33k 24-10-11 02:18 PM

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What I am so gutted about it the fact that I was so looking forward to seeing what he could do next year... I really thought the larger bikes would suit him more than the little riders like Pedrosa. Ahhh.

ibanezlynx 24-10-11 03:08 PM

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I still feel sick thinking about what happened. He was such a good rider and a pleasure to watch race. RIP

gruntygiggles 24-10-11 03:25 PM

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Only just getting on here and not surprised to see how big this thread is already.

RIP Marco and God bless you. Thoughts to family, friends and all in the MotoGP community.

The Idle Biker 24-10-11 04:31 PM

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Awful, what a character, what a shame. I watched his interview after the Philip Island race and was smiling at his Italian English, I can't believe he's dead.

Of course I have no idea of the details but it doesn't look like the medics were over careful.

http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...v650/marco.jpg

maviczap 24-10-11 04:43 PM

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True, but as he'd suffered major head, neck & chest trauma after losing his helmet as reported then chaces of bringing him back were slim :-(

Said they did CPR for 45mins which shows the amount of resus they were trying to do, as that would have at least kept the oxygen going round in his blood and most importantly to the brain, which is the golden hour of patient care. After that then its downhill

But if I was a riders rep I'd question that patient handling, seems like the medics need a lot more training

Daveog 24-10-11 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ThEGr33k (Post 2619116)
What I am so gutted about it the fact that I was so looking forward to seeing what he could do next year... I really thought the larger bikes would suit him more than the little riders like Pedrosa. Ahhh.

Yeah, that would have been great. Still a shock a day later.

Speedy Claire 24-10-11 05:09 PM

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RIP and heartfelt sympathy to his family and friends.

MisterTommyH 24-10-11 06:15 PM

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MotoGP Tribute

Amadeus 24-10-11 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommy H (Post 2619233)

A bit short and I didn't think it was a real reflection of the man TBH but it's nice to see a tribute none the less.

Even all this time later, I still wonder whether I'll watch MotoGP next year (I'll watch the final race to see how he is remembered). The top 3 riders are really rather dull (I was hoping that Lorenzo was going to liven things up a bit but I gave up thinking that after seeing him complain about Sic (when Sic suggested that he may get arrested :grin:) - he was bringing some light back to the division.

The Basket 24-10-11 07:55 PM

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There is footage from Bautista's bike of the Honda leaning over then sliding away. A low side. Simoncelli must have dug his knee down and the bike got on its tyres again.

His helmet coming off is something I have never seen before. The marshalls look useless but I said that when Tomizawa was killed last year. No change there then.

fenjer 24-10-11 08:14 PM

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I hope he was unconscious on the first impact tbh...

I feel so bad for Edwards and Rossi too - imagine hitting someone you regard as a brother?

nice tribute here: says it all IMHO

http://www.valentinorossi.com/index-en.html

Binky 24-10-11 08:26 PM

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Just out of curiosity, did anyone try and watch the BBC replaying it in the afternoon on Sunday. Did they even show anything to do with MotoGP?

flymo 24-10-11 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Binky (Post 2619293)
Just out of curiosity, did anyone try and watch the BBC replaying it in the afternoon on Sunday. Did they even show anything to do with MotoGP?

I don't think they did no, not much point considering there was no race to show and with the news carrying the story.

MR UKI (1) 24-10-11 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Binky (Post 2619293)
Just out of curiosity, did anyone try and watch the BBC replaying it in the afternoon on Sunday. Did they even show anything to do with MotoGP?

THey just went to pitlane and Matt Roberts announced the news and had a brief chat with Charlie Cox and Steve Parrish.

cluffy 24-10-11 08:36 PM

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R.I.P thoughts to his family :(

Teejayexc 24-10-11 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Basket (Post 2619274)
The marshalls look useless but I said that when Tomizawa was killed last year. No change there then.


And what the feck could they do about it :confused:

No marshalls = no racing simple as.

Stenno 24-10-11 08:43 PM

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Sat hear reading through everyone's tributes and memories to find some comfort. Disappointed to see a photo on here and people analysing the crash. Ah well. MCN are publishing a nice front cover. RIP #58.

andrewsmith 24-10-11 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Teejayexc (Post 2619308)
And what the feck could they do about it :confused:

No marshalls = no racing simple as.

No race marshall is paid more than a meal and a beer a day.
Most marshalls are joe public that love their racing enough to help out

fizzwheel 24-10-11 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Teejayexc (Post 2619308)
And what the feck could they do about it

My thoughts to. He would never get the kind of medical assistance he needed at the trackside. His only hope was getting him to hospital ASAP. Personally I think they did what they could. It could also be that they were shocked at his injuries and just didnt know what to do.

I dont think it matters that theres a pic on here, or that the accident is being discussed, no matter what we do or say, it wont bring him back.

We're not his family, we're not his friends, I doubt even if anybody here has even met or spoken to him. I dont think its being disrepectful or that anybody should be disappointed that the forum is being used in that way.

He was a challenging / attacking rider and TBH I also thought he was a bit of a pr1ck, but I used to like to watch him race. He died doing something that he loved and IMHO no better way to go than that.

454697819 24-10-11 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by daddyjob (Post 2618836)
Watching that was moving, especially the Doctor talking about the treatment of Simoncelli. You could really feel the emotions. I have never seen such a quiet press conference with very few questions. Very respectfully done considering how soon after the accident it was

agreed, so very sad...

The Basket 24-10-11 09:29 PM

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How to lift a stretcher for one.

Flybuster 24-10-11 10:53 PM

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Even if you didn't like him ( which I did ) he was a character and a breath of fresh air who just went out and raced whoever was in front of him. For me he made Moto GP better to watch and I, like many, had him down as champion in 1 or 2 years time.
I will miss him alot and think Moto GP will be worse without him.

littleoldman2 24-10-11 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Flybuster (Post 2619363)
Even if you didn't like him ( which I did ) he was a character and a breath of fresh air who just went out and raced whoever was in front of him. For me he made Moto GP better to watch and I, like many, had him down as champion in 1 or 2 years time.
I will miss him alot and think Moto GP will be worse without him.

+1

Binky 24-10-11 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommy H (Post 2619233)

Nice little tribute here as well. Better than the "official MotoGP" one IMO too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpOsx...el_video_title

Flybuster 25-10-11 12:00 AM

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Nice tribute and it shows what a racer he was.
An absolute tragedy.

flymo 25-10-11 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Binky (Post 2619368)
Nice little tribute here as well. Better than the "official MotoGP" one IMO too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpOsx...el_video_title

I agree. At 35s it also contains a scary, almost carbon copy of the accident that ended his life.

To the comments earlier about disapproval towards analysing the accident, I respect your opinion but you must also understand the need for others to understand what happened. It isn't disrespectful, its human nature.


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