Originally Posted by yorkie_chris (Post 2014378)

The laws of physics would also say that if the front of the bike dives like mad there will be a delay between applying the brakes and the front tyre being loaded by braking force, giving a bike spike in tyre forces as the suspension bottoms out. Reducing effective grip and making a sudden lock more likely. And, a reduction of the bikes moment of inertia as the CoG effectively raises up, making a stoppie more likely.

Most important laws of physics, gravity always wins, and tarmac rash hurts :-P

Ruth, make sure you develop the muscle memory to grip the bike with your legs hard and not weight the bars under braking. Weighting the bars like this makes it feel like you are braking much harder than you are. Your arms should be relaxed. This also improves feel of the front end by a huge margin.
This is something which can only be learnt by practice. Again, find a car park and find out for yourself how much braking power you really have.

Even excellent brakes can feel naff with bad technique.

Originally Posted by Ruthja2801 (Post 2014360)

Can't answer that 100% as it happened all too quickly. But yes I think i did pull it in!

I did think in hindsight I should have changed down and used the engine braking!

What would i have done took it straight down to second or down just one gear?

I don't recall any diving on the front forks, just remember thinking **** don't lock the back wheel!

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris (Post 2014396)

Sorry to confuse, it was a response to viney invoking the laws of physics :-P

If you could pull back you were not braking very hard!

Grip hard, you will feel your inertia pushing you forward, don't let this force push you onto the bars. You should be able to flap your arms like a chicken. When you are relaxed enough you will feel the front tyre getting squidged into the road.

Upright, on an SV in the dry, with almost any tyres that aren't totally stone cold, you will be able to lift the rear wheel way before it slides. There is plenty grip if you have the confidence to use it.

Originally Posted by Ruthja2801 (Post 2014360)

Can't answer that 100% as it happened all too quickly. But yes I think i did pull it in!

I did think in hindsight I should have changed down and used the engine braking!

What would i have done took it straight down to second or down just one gear?

I don't recall any diving on the front forks, just remember thinking **** don't lock the back wheel!

Originally Posted by Ruthja2801 (Post 2014460)

Don't even change down along side using your brakes? I would of thought the amount of engine braking would help?

Originally Posted by Ruthja2801 (Post 2013883)

Hhmm thanks Dizzy, I've got on the most girly setting don't know what number, whichever one brought it closer the the throttle. So would turning it the other way give me more feel?
Lone wolf, further training already sorted doing Roadcraft on Thursday! :)