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-Ralph- 07-03-11 09:22 AM

Re: Anyone ever gone back to an sv?
 
One day when I've got a double garage and the money (dream), there will be 4 bikes in there. Something like my Daytona, something like the new Tenere for the likes of my Portugal trips, a 250 off road bike for greenlaning (and for my son to learn to ride on as he gets older), and a sorted SV as a winter hack and runabout.

fizzwheel 07-03-11 09:34 AM

Re: Anyone ever gone back to an sv?
 
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Originally Posted by -Ralph- (Post 2496532)
You say the just SV vibrates more but doesn't go anywhere. I don't agree with that necessarily, but can see how it could feel that way when getting straight off a Gixxer 750.

Thats how it feels through the saddle to me, open throttle, it vibrates, and doesnt accelerate, but then like you say its not fair to compare the two really. Liz said basically the same after she got off her Ducati and rode her SV again.

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Originally Posted by -Ralph- (Post 2496532)
Thing is that's maybe what people want, the sensation of thrashing a bike and going fast, without actually seeing big numbers on the speedo?

Sure I get that, its just that I wouldnt buy an SV if I wanted that. I'd go a bit mental and get something like a RS250 or an RGV250 and have some two stroke tom foolery built in, as well as unreliability and frequent top end rebuilds. :D

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Originally Posted by -Ralph- (Post 2496532)
but on the SV you can come out of a 30 limit and pin it full throttle up to 80 mph and it's fun!

Again I get that to, but its heck of a lot more fun for me to rag my GSXR from 30 to 80 odd upon exiting an 30 limit than it was to do that on my SV.

Horses for courses isnt it, and we've both been here before ;)

-Ralph- 07-03-11 10:00 AM

Re: Anyone ever gone back to an sv?
 
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Originally Posted by fizzwheel (Post 2496561)
Again I get that to, but its heck of a lot more fun for me to rag my GSXR from 30 to 80 odd upon exiting an 30 limit than it was to do that on my SV.

Really? The Gixxer 750 isn't as quick as I thought it was then. Rag the Daytona from 30mph and your climbing over the front trying to keep the wheel down, and doing 80 within 2 or 3 seconds, all without changing out of second gear. Then the fun is already over, unless you want to carry on up to higher speeds, which I don't. TBH I've never ragged from 30 to 80 mph yet, because if ragging it your well past 80mph before you realise it.

At least on the SV you get a couple of red line gear changes in there, and the fun lasts a bit longer.

Yesterday I wasn't riding any faster than I would on the SV, but I was just enjoying the ease with which the bike achieved the same pace, like I said, no more than quarter throttle and 8000 revs, and in Specialone's words "your a lot quicker on that than your XT, that thing just f***s off."

A 250 stroker would be my choice as well if just for thrashing fun, but as you say, they are just not too practical to be used for anything else. I wish I could have a different bike for every purpose, but I can't afford it, which is why I have an XT600.

Jackie_Black 07-03-11 10:12 AM

Re: Anyone ever gone back to an sv?
 
RS250 would be hilarious like. I'll have a think and just keep pootling about on the hornet in the meanwhile. The last new SV sport on e-bay is 4899 but the guy wants 18% for the tick! mental. No chance.

fizzwheel 07-03-11 10:13 AM

Re: Anyone ever gone back to an sv?
 
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Originally Posted by -Ralph- (Post 2496574)
Really? The Gixxer 750 isn't as quick as I thought it was then. Rag the Daytona from 30mph and your climbing over the front trying to keep the wheel down, and doing 80 within 2 or 3 seconds, all without changing out of second gear.

No, the GSXR is the same, open the throttle hard in 2nd gear at 30mph and I'm leaning over the front trying to keep the front down to. Or in the wet I'm balancing the throttle to maintain traction without the rear spinning up. Its a challenge and thats what I like.

Like you say the acceleration to 80mph is harsh it happens quickly. I like that. The rev counter whizzes around the tacho and I'm waiting for it go mental at 10000rpm when it gets properly into its stride. Its completely bonkers. Thats what I call fun. Yes it happens in a couple of seconds, but I love that feeling of Raw power / acceleration and the SV is never going to give me that like the GSXR does.

yorkie_chris 07-03-11 10:23 AM

Re: Anyone ever gone back to an sv?
 
Likewise the GSXR will never give you the feeling that you're getting the most out of it.

Dicky Ticker 07-03-11 10:32 AM

Re: Anyone ever gone back to an sv?
 
I would find it hard going back to a standard SV as it requires so many modifications to bring it up the levels of comparable machines from other manufactures out there which cost fractionally more, but value for bucks it is a good budget bike.It is what you have become accustomed to and if you have only ever owned an SV and nothing else over a long period you may not appreciate what I am saying.In short for the cost of the bike plus modifications you can acquire a better ready made package.Some individuals like fettling but with the SV it is expensive to increase the performance to a significant level.

fizzwheel 07-03-11 10:45 AM

Re: Anyone ever gone back to an sv?
 
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Originally Posted by yorkie_chris (Post 2496601)
Likewise the GSXR will never give you the feeling that you're getting the most out of it.

I've never felt like that about it. I'm not bothered about squeezing every last drop of performance out of it.

I could take it on track and never get 100% out of it. I am just not that good a rider. I'd never get 100% out of the SV either.

yorkie_chris 07-03-11 10:58 AM

Re: Anyone ever gone back to an sv?
 
For me the fun is in ragging the buggerance out of it TBH. I'd have a 350 stroker any day but they're just not useable.

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Originally Posted by Dicky Ticker (Post 2496613)
Some individuals like fettling but with the SV it is expensive to increase the performance to a significant level.

But the bike's cheap to start with.

Lots of other bikes in similar field have better looking suspension that isn't actually much better, until you start getting to street triples and stuff that are way more expensive.

-Ralph- 07-03-11 11:06 AM

Re: Anyone ever gone back to an sv?
 
My SV was £4000 brand new, a brand new custom shock is £600, and you could pick up a set of fairly new Gixxer forks and a wheel for £400, a new rear sprocket is £40 quid, and a new set of tyres £180 (both of which the dealer will probably throw in if you specify that you want a different tyre and sprocket, then he'll stock the D220's to sell to someone else).

So long as a 71bhp v-twin is what you are after, and I personally think 70-100 bhp is perfect for road use at legal (ish) speeds, then there is not another new bike out there to match it for £5000.

You can do better for the same money, but only by buying something 5 years or older.


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