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markmoto 01-06-11 10:11 PM

Re: Freeman or Freeloaders, lets decide.
 
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Originally Posted by TamSV (Post 2548928)
"Hitler was right: "If the lie is big enough, the People will fall for it".

He was right? He was ****ing right??

Who in their right mind quotes Mein Kampf to make a point?

Hitler wasn't talking about himself, he was talking about the Jews.

Calm down, jeese ness was just quoting a quote hitler made, and the quote in itself is absolutely correct the bigger the lie the more likely it is to fall for im sure she was refering to the quote itself and not hitlers ideals.
This quote still stands today, politicians all over the world tell the biggest whoppers you can imagine and most people just swallow it as fact!

Some people on this forum just need to relax abit and stop attacking people.:rolleyes:

markmoto 01-06-11 10:12 PM

Re: Freeman or Freeloaders, lets decide.
 
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Originally Posted by SuzukiNess (Post 2548839)
"What is a Freeman-on-the-land? Well, it isn't someone who remains outside the law. No-one is outside the law, so this is not a proposition for anarchy.
But - it all depends on what is meant by 'law'.
And that's the catch. What you have grown up to assume is 'the law' is not, in point of fact, the law.
That's The Grand Deception. Hitler was right: "If the lie is big enough, the People will fall for it".
Once you know the deception, and what the law actually is, you'll realise how the wool has been firmly and deliberately pulled over your eyes, your parent's eyes, and those of everyone you know."

Thank you ness this is quite a good summary of the freeman movement..

Jamesy D 01-06-11 10:13 PM

Re: Freeman or Freeloaders, lets decide.
 
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Originally Posted by markmoto (Post 2548953)
Thank you ness this is quite a good summary of the freeman movement..

The only problem is that it doesn't really 'say' anything...it's somewhat guilty of doing what politicians do - saying lots, without really telling you anything.

markmoto 01-06-11 10:15 PM

Re: Freeman or Freeloaders, lets decide.
 
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Originally Posted by SoulKiss (Post 2548854)
Good, now can you find where on their site that it lists, article by article, what the "law actually is", what they suggest we abide by?

Learn it for yourself there are huge differences between the common law's of the land an statue's /act's of parliament

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That is other than articles to prove how the Fractional Reserve is a con and therefor loans taken out and debts incurred should be ignoreable.
Again if you dont know how the fractional reserve banking system work's and how they fabricate money out of thin air literaly, learn about it, if your at all interested if your not then dont worry about it.

markmoto 01-06-11 10:16 PM

Re: Freeman or Freeloaders, lets decide.
 
:thumright: @The Idle Biker

TamSV 01-06-11 10:18 PM

Re: Freeman or Freeloaders, lets decide.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by markmoto (Post 2548952)
Calm down, jeese ness was just quoting a quote hitler made, and the quote in itself is absolutely correct the bigger the lie the more likely it is to fall for im sure she was refering to the quote itself and not hitlers ideals.
This quote still stands today, politicians all over the world tell the biggest whoppers you can imagine and most people just swallow it as fact!

Some people on this forum just need to relax abit and stop attacking people.:rolleyes:

I was in no way having a go at Ness. She was posting something from a FOTL site. I didn't quote her in the post so as not to attribute the quote to her.

I remain surprised that you turn to that particular source for wisdom. Is the context of the quote unimportant if it suits your purposes?

markmoto 01-06-11 10:18 PM

Re: Freeman or Freeloaders, lets decide.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamesy D (Post 2548954)
The only problem is that it doesn't really 'say' anything...it's somewhat guilty of doing what politicians do - saying lots, without really telling you anything.

Then educate yourself you have the world at your finger tip's it's not my job to tell you how it all work's if your interested then seek and yee shall find, my opinion would be only that anyway.

SoulKiss 01-06-11 10:20 PM

Re: Freeman or Freeloaders, lets decide.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by markmoto (Post 2548960)
Learn it for yourself there are huge differences between the common law's of the land an statue's /act's of parliament

Again if you dont know how the fractional reserve banking system work's and how they fabricate money out of thin air literaly, learn about it, if your at all interested if your not then dont worry about it.

I was asking for you to provide the actual rule-book that the FotL movement is proposing.

Not what each member interprets for themselves, but a document that all will abide by.

Without that it IS just anarchy.

And we had a very good and concise thread on the Fractional Reserve system the other week, its well understood, known to be crazy, yet no-one is offering a potential replacement.

My point I have been trying to make is that without a cohesive argument that stands up to scrutiny and discussion then all you have is a crackpot scheme.

markmoto 01-06-11 10:23 PM

Re: Freeman or Freeloaders, lets decide.
 
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Originally Posted by TamSV (Post 2548963)
I was in no way having a go at Ness. She was posting something from a FOTL site. I didn't quote her in the post so as not to attribute the quote to her.

I remain surprised that you turn to that particular source for wisdom. Is the context of the quote unimportant if it suits your purposes?

Thats not how it came across to me you came across very agressively, i didnt turn to it for wisdom ness meantioned it and i just agreed it was a very valid quote. the context is irrelevant the point behind the quote is still to this day very valid, i.e the bigger the whopper the more people are likely to swallow it.

TamSV 01-06-11 10:32 PM

Re: Freeman or Freeloaders, lets decide.
 
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Originally Posted by markmoto (Post 2548971)
Thats not how it came across to me you came across very agressively

I used two question marks because I couldn't find the "incredulous" smilie. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by markmoto (Post 2548971)
the context is irrelevant

To understand the fair meaning of a quote, context is everything.


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