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Originally Posted by -Ralph- (Post 2644616)

So if I'm reading this right, you bought it at 4 months old and kept it for a year?

No I didn't word that quite clearly. I bought a 2006 model, in 2010, and kept it for a year. It was imported from the UK which it had lived outside, and sat unused for 4 months. I literally live about 50 ft from the sea so that probably didn't help.

I'm not defending Hyosung with my life but in my experience they aren't as bad as the views posted here.

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Originally Posted by Steve_God (Post 2644162)

Then I'd say there's been a structural failure on one of the parts in the engine, but that's just me and my opinion.

That's an engine failure. Simply saying that Hyosung bikes regularly suffer from structural failures implies you are talking about the structure of the bike, i.e. frame, wheel or suspension failures, any of which are serious safety concerns.

Please note I'm not defending Hyosung at all, clearly they are have some significant quality issues, but making fallacious statements about structural failures undermines your arguments.

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Originally Posted by mikerj (Post 2645268)

Simply saying that Hyosung bikes regularly suffer from structural failures implies you are talking about the structure of the bike

I've never said that they regularly suffer from structural failures...

I actually said "many reports of structural failures or engine problems".
My original comment stemmed back from a memory of reading a post several years ago on another forum slating Hyosung about terrible issues they'd had with their bike that had stuck in my mind, but I couldn't remember exactly what the issue was. After googling and finding those links, it appeared to be the issue around the batch that was later recalled to do with engine failures.

That said, my view of the wording of a structural failure is that in the engineering sense, "Structural failure refers to loss of the load-carrying capacity of a component or member within a structure or of the structure itself" - personally, I'd still class an engine failure, as the result of a structural failure of one of the load-carrying parts the engine. But hey, that's just coming at it from an engineering view...

Back to the point, there had been many reports... majority in the past and relating to a specific batch... probably all fine now... feel free to go out and buy one...

This debate reminds me of the arguments I used to hear when Japanese bikes first started turning up here.

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Originally Posted by garynortheast (Post 2645566)

These debate reminds me of the arguments I used to hear when Japanese bikes first started turning up here.

Wait until some one asks about buying a Chinese Quad! :smt043

As a side issue, my step son is interested in biking and in March reaches an age where he can ride a 50cc bike, so he scoured the internet and we ended up buying him a Yam DT50. However one of the bikes he asked us to look at was a new AJS 50. AJS, an old classic name now owned by the Chinese. The bike was rusting in the showroom, the paint felt like it had sand in it and the bike was so small, it was nearly a minimoto! our lad left the shop some what underwhelmed! Given the choice of that or a Hyosung... :smt107

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Originally Posted by garynortheast (Post 2645566)

This debate reminds me of the arguments I used to hear when Japanese bikes first started turning up here.

Except they are actually sh*t.

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Originally Posted by yorkie_chris (Post 2645733)

Except they are actually sh*t.

So were early Japanese bikes. So were early Japanese cars, at least bodywise. You'd get old Datsun 120Ys with not an unrusted panel and the interior collapsing but, they'd got most of the mechanicals sorted. They would still start on a snowy morning when all the Fords and Vauxhall were out with dampstart and hammers.

Korean cars of 15 years ago were pants too. Kia and Hyundai now produce perfectly good vehicles and there's no reason to believe that, given a few years and some reasonable investment, Hyosung might do the same.

Just

don't

buy

one

yet!

Look where Hyundai and Kia are on the What Car reliability survey, I'm seriously considering a new shape Kia Sportage for my wife's next car. 7 year warranty too!

http://www.whatcar.com/NonCar/AC/2771111121634.jpg

We bought an 04 Kia Sorento 6 years ago at 50k miles, now just coming up to 140k apart from service items haven't had to replace a thing.

I can remember Japanese bikes in the late 60's with frames and swingarms made of rubber, welding like randomly applied pigeon **** and brakes that did about as much as the brakes on my old BSA, which was not a lot! Some of them were quite quick and the engines were on the whole more reliable than the current offerings from most of the British manufacturers - but then that wasn't a particularly difficult feat to achieve.

Times change, and will do so again.