Originally Posted by xXBADGERXx (Post 2662568)

Let`s face facts .... this happens , we`ve all done something silly and you hope that you learn from it all . I have ridden with Berlin and a quite a few others on here and they have witnessed me having a good day and then all of a sudden I will drop back and retire myself further down the pack . I know when my limits of concentration are being exhausted and I am likely to have an "incident" . You have to push to know where your limits are , then stick to those limits and back off and ride another day .

Originally Posted by Owenski (Post 2662153)

Im actually gonna credit the rider for keeping a cool head.
I dont see much wrong with anything he does maybe a slight loss of concentration as his entry line isnt brilliant but after that the guy does fantasticly IMO.
Im suspecting its low adesion which is to blame and here's why:
At 29s he is still tipping in, but everything looks fine, then his front goes a bit loose, this is fractions of a second before the car comes into view
At 30s he's drifting towards the centre line, and seems to drift wide quicker than you'd normally expect,
At 31s he is crossing the yellow lines and there is another black skid mark almost perfectly projecting the line you'd expect him to take from this point of the slide.
At 32s he misses the car by a cat **** hair, and then has fighter pilot composure to miss steer around the truck.
at 33s look in the RH lane just after he passes the truck and there is a continuation of the skid mark seen at 31s this heads stright into the banking.

He isnt the first person to loose control on this corner and I thats why I suspect the surface is largely to blame, and why I say he's done fantastically.

Originally Posted by xXBADGERXx (Post 2662568)

....... You have to push to know where your limits are , then stick to those limits and back off and ride another day .

Originally Posted by Red Herring (Post 2662576)

Not on the public road you don't, leastways not into a blind bend where your mistake could involve others. "Accidents" if I could be permitted to use an old fashioned term, don't just happen, they are an obvious consequence to an often chosen course of behaviour and this was a classic example. I know that some motorcyclists like to push it along a bit, myself included, and I'd like to think we all know and accept the risks we are putting ourselves at when we do so, but none of us have the right to include others in that risk. If you want to look for your limits do it somewhere that isn't going to ruin somebody else's life when you find them. Sorry, I know I sound like a right boring fart sometimes but this "didn't he do well" attitude really gets my goat.

Originally Posted by Lozzo (Post 2661629)

Trying too hard to keep up with his obviously far more talented mates, then he nearly wiped out the guy following as he rejoined his lane - Idiot.