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Bordtea 30-05-12 11:03 PM

Re: Puncture repairs
 
Bloody hell, it didnt blow did it?

suzukigt380paul 30-05-12 11:30 PM

Re: Puncture repairs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SoulKiss (Post 2715100)
Goop may make it impossible for the superior Mushroom fix tho.

but if youve only got a puncture in the tread part of the tyre and use something like puncture safe then it will last the life of the tyre and you wont need to put a mushroom in it,and i know this to be true as every tyre i put on the rear of my bandit 6 has had a puncture at low miles,and i'm just about to put the fourth set of tyres on it since ive owned it

StewartR 31-05-12 08:47 AM

Re: Puncture repairs
 
Hi Bordtea,

no, no blowout. Just a skittish @rse end, a 'D'oh!' and a couple of hours waiting for recovery, stuck by the roadside on a roasting day when he should have been ragging his DL round the country lanes of this fair shire. On the plus side he wasn't spanking it down a motorway - that could have been a different story.

Assuming you put some value on your own time, if you factor the in the cost of the repair (£20), the effort in getting the reapair done and the scr3wed up Sunday then it really seems a false economy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzukigt380paul (Post 2719672)
but if youve only got a puncture in the tread part of the tyre and use something like puncture safe then it will last the life of the tyre and you wont need to put a mushroom in it,and i know this to be true as every tyre i put on the rear of my bandit 6 has had a puncture at low miles,and i'm just about to put the fourth set of tyres on it since ive owned it

Can't comment on Puncture Safe. Maybe that's the way. The scenario I was talking about was physical repair.

SoulKiss 31-05-12 09:01 AM

Re: Puncture repairs
 
Well I guess it cant work everytime.

However in my experience EVERY set of tyres I have had replaced has had a mushroom in them by their end of life due to wear, and tbh I couldn't even tell you if the current tyres on either of my bikes are plugged or not - I think the Zed is - thats how much thought I give to the matter.

jambo 31-05-12 04:07 PM

Re: Puncture repairs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StewartR (Post 2719649)
Follow up: the repair failed and the area where the carcass puncture was was noticeable weaker than any other part of the tyre. Put me right off repairs.

How was this repair done?

StewartR 31-05-12 04:24 PM

Re: Puncture repairs
 
Don't know TBH. Would guess it was a mushroom.

StewartR 02-06-12 07:35 PM

Re: Puncture repairs
 
More follow up: Article in RiDE in which a professional puncture repair type chap says....

He only repairs Michelin because they have kevlar belt as opposed to steel. Drilling for the repair will hole the kevlar but not compromise it whereas it could cut through individual strands in the steel.

Also, repairs to sidewall are illegal.

Also, puncture prevention slime is a no no as it imbalances the wheel.

Also, lots and lots of roadside repair kits reviewed. All get you home, 40 mph alternatives to waiting for Messrs RAC, AA, Green Flag etc.

Also, it's bl@@dy raining.

All* this is just mindlessly regurgitated and purely FYI.

*Apart from the rain bit, that was all me :)

NTECUK 02-06-12 10:37 PM

Re: Puncture repairs
 
This?
http://www.btmauk.com/data/files/Min...1_May_2011.pdf

suzukigt380paul 02-06-12 11:05 PM

Re: Puncture repairs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NTECUK (Post 2721033)

useful info,but still a load of boll0cks saying liquid filler aint a permanent repair and no tubeless tyres should be used with a innertube

StewartR 02-06-12 11:12 PM

Re: Puncture repairs
 
That. And...

'If you get a puncture in a Michelin tyre you can repair it and the tyre is still safe because the [kevlar] belt is still solid.
I've spoken to guys at Michelin about this and they told me they had repaired one of their tyres 30 times just to see what had happened and it was fine.
But most motorcycle tyre manufacturers use steel belts and even if you only get a small puncture in one of their tyres you have to drill through the tyre to fit a plug. That means you could be drilling through the steel cable of the belt, so the tyre doesn't have any structural strength left in it.
The belt is made up of one band of steel that's wrapped round and round the tyre and at high speed, the loops of steel will try to pull apart if there's any damage to one part of it.
Another problem is that the steel can start to rust if you've had a puncture. So the reason people often refuse to fix punctures is because they can't guarantee how safe the tyre is going to be afterwards and they don't want any insurance claims against them.'
Mark Brunt of Mobile Bike Tyres, quoted in RiDE, July 2012 issue.

Don't get how all that fits with 'There is no limit to the number of minor repairs in area ‘T’ provided that repair patches do not overlap.' from section 3b in the BTMA doc, unless car and bike structure is fundamentally different.


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