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barryrs 24-09-07 01:45 PM

Re: Gold digging Ex-wives!!
 
Most of these comments are based on current feelings in a happy relationship so not the same situation; as the saying goes Hell Hath No Fury Like A Woman Scorned.

I think that at the time of the break up the overriding attitude is “I will take the ******* for all he’s got” Its unfortunately human nature.

neio79 24-09-07 01:45 PM

Re: Gold digging Ex-wives!!
 
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Originally Posted by ArtyLady (Post 1295654)
Is this post serious? :confused:


whaaaa got a full on bite!!!!! LOL :rolleyes:

nickj 24-09-07 01:46 PM

Re: Gold digging Ex-wives!!
 
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Originally Posted by Samnooshka (Post 1295650)
. My step dad was refused access to his kids when he divorced his wife, even though he was the one who had done nothing wrong and it was her who had run off, she stopped him seeing his kids, and instead of trying to work things out personally, she went straight to the CSA and they wanted to claim more money than he could afford, after he had paid his rent, and bills etc he would have ended up with -£50 a month!!

These are the one's i feel really sorry for, the people who have done nothing wrong but because someone gets bitter they are allowed very little access to their kids and then get stiched by the CSA anyway.

neio79 24-09-07 01:49 PM

Re: Gold digging Ex-wives!!
 
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Originally Posted by Samnooshka (Post 1295650)
Yes they will persue the absent parent for money regardless if it is mum or dad!

My mum has a personal agreement with my brothers dad that he pays support directly to my mum to pay for his keep including food, school trips, uniform, after school stuff etc. (My mother works btw and has a very successful business but it takes 2 to make a baby and why should she pay for everything).

The CSA take a large chunk of the monies paid, and the parent doesn't recieve everything... the personal agreement works better for my mum and for craigs dad as he is paying less than if mum was to go to CSA for the money and obviously she is getting more money as there is not that 3rd person involved.

If people sorted things out between them amicably then there would be no need for the CSA... it is there for the extreme cases where the parent wont pay for their child (or their share of the responsibility for the child). However it doesn't help when the father/mother refuses to work as the CSA is after them. My step dad was refused access to his kids when he divorced his wife, even though he was the one who had done nothing wrong and it was her who had run off, she stopped him seeing his kids, and instead of trying to work things out personally, she went straight to the CSA and they wanted to claim more money than he could afford, after he had paid his rent, and bills etc he would have ended up with -£50 a month!!

hmm very interesting.

so following on from that.

what would happen if say the mother had custody and then got re-married to someone who earnt far more than the farther and provided everything for them, then addopted the kids as his own by law. Does the bio farther have to pay the same rate still?

ASM-Forever 24-09-07 01:49 PM

Re: Gold digging Ex-wives!!
 
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Originally Posted by Samnooshka (Post 1295637)
stuff

Its lucky i am more thick skinned than you then! I have already explained my position and made it clear that my comment was not directed at artylady. It was in no way a personal insult/attack. TBH your comment is in distinct contrast to mine. Mine may have caused offence(but accidentally) and i immediately clarified it. Yours can only be construed as to deliberately cause offence....and that speaks volumes about you as a person.

Back on OT, with regards to maternity leave. There is the other side of the argument, in that it is unfair on the company to have to hold a job open. In the meantime, they have to relocate staff/employ a temp, which costs the business money and potentially harms operational efficiency. On top of these costs they also have to subsidise the women on leave. That could easily be contsrued as unfair. I do not make this point to be provocative, one of my dads business's has had problems because of abuse of this system.

As i also conceded in previous posts, the gate swings both ways. Although less common there are men that are operating in reverse.

IMHO having children is a choice and i believe people should be in a financially viable position before they have them. This will decrease reliance on the state/system for handouts.

At the end of the day, the parents have decided to have children, so are in no postion to complain how hard it is. They made a conscious choice and its their responsibility.

I have found the children i have looked after, to be relatively easy to deal with. Perhaps that is becuase they have had a good upbringing.

ArtyLady 24-09-07 01:51 PM

Re: Gold digging Ex-wives!!
 
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Originally Posted by neio79 (Post 1295662)
whaaaa got a full on bite!!!!! LOL :rolleyes:

Oh really...:confused: I didnt see any ;) 's in there

skint 24-09-07 01:58 PM

Re: Gold digging Ex-wives!!
 
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Originally Posted by neio79 (Post 1295640)
question which is related,

we all know the CSA or whatever it is called now absolutly hammers blokes for money, of which the (stupid) women dot realise is that the dont see all that is taken.

Anyhow would the CSA persue an absent mother who earnt a fair bit as much as an absent farther??

Me and my Mrs have always said that if the worst happened and we split that who ever got custody would set up a personel agreement that is much fairer than the CSA's.

and i have also stated that again if she tried to screw me over payments then i would just move abroad where they cant get the payment of you:)

oh and Skint sorry mate for bringing up bad memories.

Of course people are generalising Sam thats what most of us do. I do my fair share of housekeeping and kid caring as my wife will confirm but I take the general criticisim and jibes that most woman target at men e.g. being lazy, always on the beer and so on. It is generalising because there are more examples of it just as there are many examples of ex wives as golddiggers.

Neio - yes the CSA would chase woman in that position just as much the thing is that there aren't so many examples of that scenario and its the system they apply that is (by perception) biased. As I hinted at above my wife's ex husband hasn't paid a penny yet her case is with the CSA. She has to chase them on a monthly basis and has been doing so for 15 years!! They have so many cases that they simply go for easy wins (IMHO based on own experience). My ex-wife could afford not to work due to benefits, CSA payments and Personal maintenance. I couldn't afford to. Wife's ex gave up work and just dossed. he didn't care about looking after his kids.

Despite what I had to go through I wouldn't change anything if it mean't my kids would go hungry or badly clothed etc. The annoying thing is that I know the money didn't go to them, instead it paid the mortgage off early so she was quids in later.

To be fair the ladies who have commented on here make valid points and good for for them for taking that equality stand. :thumbsup: Just hasn't been my personal experience.

Must get back to work to earn a crust for the family before I leave for home to sort out missuses gsxr battery, check the oil and tyre pressures on her car before I prepare dinner... Oh its such a strain being a perfect male;)

ArtyLady 24-09-07 01:58 PM

Re: Gold digging Ex-wives!!
 
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Originally Posted by ASM-Forever (Post 1295673)
I have already explained my position and made it clear that my comment was not directed at artylady. It was in no way a personal insult/attack.

But you still havent said who is was directed at, did you omit the name of the "lazy bint" that you were referring to? IMO if it was directed at Mother's in general then that is a personal attack.

skint 24-09-07 01:59 PM

Re: Gold digging Ex-wives!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by neio79 (Post 1295640)
question which is related,

we all know the CSA or whatever it is called now absolutly hammers blokes for money, of which the (stupid) women dot realise is that the dont see all that is taken.

Anyhow would the CSA persue an absent mother who earnt a fair bit as much as an absent farther??

Me and my Mrs have always said that if the worst happened and we split that who ever got custody would set up a personel agreement that is much fairer than the CSA's.

and i have also stated that again if she tried to screw me over payments then i would just move abroad where they cant get the payment of you:)

oh and Skint sorry mate for bringing up bad memories.

Of course people are generalising Sam thats what most of us do. I do my fair share of housekeeping and kid caring as my wife will confirm but I take the general criticisim and jibes that most woman target at men e.g. being lazy, always on the beer and so on. It is generalising because there are more examples of it just as there are many examples of ex wives as golddiggers.

Neio - yes the CSA would chase woman in that position just as much the thing is that there aren't so many examples of that scenario and its the system they apply that is (by perception) biased. As I hinted at above my wife's ex husband hasn't paid a penny yet her case is with the CSA. She has to chase them on a monthly basis and has been doing so for 15 years!! They have so many cases that they simply go for easy wins (IMHO based on own experience). My ex-wife could afford not to work due to benefits, CSA payments and Personal maintenance. I couldn't afford to. Wife's ex gave up work and just dossed. he didn't care about looking after his kids.

Despite what I had to go through I wouldn't change anything if it mean't my kids would go hungry or badly clothed etc. The annoying thing is that I know the money didn't go to them, instead it paid the mortgage off early so she was quids in later.

To be fair the ladies who have commented on here make valid points and good for for them for taking that equality stand. :thumbsup: Just hasn't been my personal experience.

Must get back to work to earn a crust for the family before I leave for home to sort out missuses gsxr battery, check the oil and tyre pressures on her car before I prepare dinner... Oh its such a strain being a perfect male;)

Samnooshka 24-09-07 02:08 PM

Re: Gold digging Ex-wives!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by neio79 (Post 1295671)
hmm very interesting.

so following on from that.

what would happen if say the mother had custody and then got re-married to someone who earnt far more than the farther and provided everything for them, then addopted the kids as his own by law. Does the bio farther have to pay the same rate still?

If the step father has adopted the children as his own, by law, then they are no longer the fathers responsibility, but you need the true fathers agreement first, unless the unfortunate has happened and is no longer with us.

If the woman remarries then i am sure he would still have to pay as the children are his and getting married to a richer man/woman, doesn't affect this.

Not sure completely but i think its like that.

As for going back to work... so because a woman is in a job and has a good career, she has to give that up if she wants kids? A completely natural thing to want especially in women my age. I understand it can be abused and i know that is the reason my boss has only just started to take on women my age again.


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