Originally Posted by yorkie_chris (Post 2645104)

I would question how much design they actually do and how much is sales driven TBH.

Originally Posted by Speedy Claire (Post 2644052)

Thanks everyone.... to clarify Chris he broke the same 7 (I think it was 7) bones in both hands and the same bones in both wrists but the right wrist was slightly more damaged and required the titanium plating. Co-incidentally the plate (I think it was made from carbon fibre) on the back of the right glove broke in several places which could possibly account for the more severe damage to the wrist?

Originally Posted by DMC (Post 2645089)

Well said Clare.

If you have concerns about the design of the gloves, simply draw it to RST's attention.

Despite what Bozzo says, the gloves are designed to give 'impact' protection. This is explained in RST's online literature, & no doubt in the literature supplied with the gloves.

PPE is a term principally used for protective equipment in the workplace, the CE mark will therefore only generally be used in respect of such equipment. That said, the term is also applied to any equipment used for personal protection. However, as there is no regulatory requirement to wear gloves whilst riding a bike, there is no requirement to mark gloves used for that purpose with the CE mark.

Most people (Bozzo excepted) would not make the mistake of buying motorcycle gloves to protect themselves from the rain, although gear used for weather protection could also be classed as PPE.

I know you don't wish to pursue a claim against RST, however, if you did, you would have to prove that the gloves were defective in some way (either design or manufacture) and that the defect caused or contributed to the injury.

A point where Bozzo is correct is that protective equipment cannot always prevent injury. If you fall of a motorcycle I think you can expect to sustain injury of some degree, no matter what gear you are wearing. The gloves will be designed to provide as much protection as possible to a multitude of scenarios. I think in this case Dave has just been unlucky in the way the accident occurred and the way he fell, causing realively serious injuries under the circumstances. The gloves may well have contributed to these, but that does not mean they are defective.

In any event, it is definitely worth making RST aware of the potential problem so they at least investigate and redesign if they deem necessary.

Glad Dave is making good progress.

Love and peace x

Originally Posted by TOLAROS (Post 2645233)

Claire,couple of questions:
a)If you wear the gloves and bend your wrist fully backwards(as when we open the throttle suddenly) does the plate apply prersure to the back of the wrist and/or limits the range of motion?
b)The very edge of the plate(under the red rim),is it hard(eg carbon fibre) or it has some elasticity?
c)Can you point exactly when was the plate broken?

Originally Posted by DMC (Post 2645089)

Despite what Bozzo says


Most people (Bozzo excepted)

A point where Bozzo

Originally Posted by Speedy Claire (Post 2645061)

How dare you start insulting people and spouting off untrue facts purely because you couldn`t be bothered reading the thread. Your laziness made you jump to a conclusion and you`ve made a total prat of yourself. I`ll repeat once more that Dave is not looking for financial compensation from RST other than the possibility of a refund for the cost of the gloves. His bike is fully repaired without claiming from anyones insurance company and he is on full pay whilst off sick so does not need to resort to "trying to pass the buck and claim some compo"

Originally Posted by DMC (Post 2645089)

PPE is a term principally used for protective equipment in the workplace, the CE mark will therefore only generally be used in respect of such equipment. That said, the term is also applied to any equipment used for personal protection. However, as there is no regulatory requirement to wear gloves whilst riding a bike, there is no requirement to mark gloves used for that purpose with the CE mark.

Originally Posted by DMC (Post 2645089)

Most people (Bozzo excepted) would not make the mistake of buying motorcycle gloves to protect themselves from the rain, although gear used for weather protection could also be classed as PPE.

Originally Posted by Lozzo (Post 2645334)

Have you thought that maybe he smashed the backs of his hands into both the brake and clutch levers as he did so. No amount of armour in any type of glove is going to stop bones from being broken in those circumstances.