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Kenzie 02-07-15 08:03 PM

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Just ordered some fresh Ektar 120 for the Penguin and may respool a roll to run through the Brownie C. I still have a roll of 120 I need to send off for processing. Problem with medium format is the cost!

johnnyrod 03-07-15 08:50 AM

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I am toying with the idea of investigating home processing but it's then what to do with the negatives. How is your scanner? And will it do 120?

Kenzie 03-07-15 05:03 PM

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The scanner will do 35mm and 110 only. Its ok but it does introduce some vignetting. Although that isn't a bad thing. I have toyed with the idea of doing my own 35mm but seeing as Asda do it for a couple of quid I am finding it hard to justify. 120 home develop is a different story.

Kenzie 04-07-15 08:43 PM

Vintage film cameras
 
My wife says you are naughty Johnny for introducing me to Gumtree. £10 lighter

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07...693b90a584.jpg

New set of batteries and firing well. Just needs a clean. Small dent on the filter threads though.

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johnnyrod 05-07-15 08:15 PM

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It needs a bit of patience but it's worth it when you find something, like my K2. Ah well, she can't reach me to slap me!

Kenzie 05-07-15 08:22 PM

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Also added a Canon Cannonet 28 and an Olypus XA2 to the collection. Also been loaned a Vest Pocket Twin 127.

johnnyrod 05-07-15 08:39 PM

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Am trying no to look, I almost went for an old Rolleiflex baby that was up for £50, but it also uses 127 and I don't really need another one - like that makes any sense! I'd like an XA I think but the original rangefinder not the zone focus ones. As I'm a purist.

I've been reading some very interesting threads on the Rangefinder Forum, and also blog posts by Ming Thein, about composition, and what we shoot and why. Really made me think about the pictures I take. Those you can find, here is one page with some good points about composition:
http://www.digitalcameraworld.com/20...why-they-work/

Kenzie 05-07-15 09:13 PM

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Retro photo supplies has 127 film in stock but its £7.99 a roll. I currently have in sight on my desk an OM10, GAF220, Pentax Auto 110, Voigtlander Brilliant, Kodak Brownie Reflex, Kershaw King Penguin, Yashica Lynx 1000, Trip 35, the Action Tracker and the Brownie 127. I think I need a tidy up!

Kenzie 06-07-15 08:49 PM

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I think I need to hold off and enjoy the cameras before I add any more. I have at least 20 now. I really like the way the Yashica Lynx looks and feels. Shame the rangefinder mirror broken while I was trying to fix something else. I have lost track of what has film in it!

Kenzie 11-07-15 10:45 AM

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Latest toy. A Canon Canonet 28

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07...5775fb09fe.jpg

Off out to finish the film in the Zorki and the Lynx. As well as trying the OM10.

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johnnyrod 11-07-15 01:04 PM

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Nice, are the light seals intact?

Kenzie 11-07-15 01:18 PM

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Nope! A nice gooey mess.

Kenzie 12-07-15 05:50 PM

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Thanks for the tip on the adhesive foam. Just got a few sheets and have made some seals for the Canonet.

johnnyrod 12-07-15 09:24 PM

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Some people use a rotary cutter, bit like a tiny pizza wheel, but I just did it carefully with a very sharp blade. I only needed straight bits anyway and width wasn't critical.

Kenzie 13-07-15 05:53 AM

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I bought a rotary cutter as well. Made it so much quicker. Going to sort a home development kit out.

Just bought the development tank. It will do 35mm, 120, 126, and 127 film. Just need to sort the C41 kit.

Kenzie 13-07-15 12:30 PM

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Gave the AGFA Billy Clack a good cleaning. Managed to get rid of a lot of the gunge in the bellows. Just needs loading

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07...767531f478.jpg

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johnnyrod 13-07-15 12:46 PM

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I took two pictures yesterday. I might even finish a film soon.

Kenzie 13-07-15 07:03 PM

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Interesting video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjtphPVchJI

I think I hit on why I like film. Digital is just too real. There is a lot of thought and effort in film photography. Someone said earlier that the put their camera in burst mode and bang, 30 odd shots of the same thing in a few seconds.

Kenzie 14-07-15 06:35 AM

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Just found that WEX Photographic in Norwich sell film and darkroom chemicals. Good excuse for a ride and a chance to pick up the gear I need to try black and white developing before trying colour C-41. Just wish I could take a course first. Might stop at Flixston on the way back.

johnnyrod 14-07-15 08:36 AM

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http://www.digitaltruth.com/devchart.php

Kenzie 14-07-15 07:13 PM

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Got my tank through. Got the one with two spool holders in to do two 35mm films at once.

keith_d 15-07-15 05:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenzie (Post 3018912)
Just found that WEX Photographic in Norwich sell film and darkroom chemicals. Good excuse for a ride and a chance to pick up the gear I need to try black and white developing before trying colour C-41. Just wish I could take a course first. Might stop at Flixston on the way back.

No need for a course to develop black and white, just follow the recipe. It really is easy.

keith_d 15-07-15 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenzie (Post 3018971)
Got my tank through. Got the one with two spool holders in to do two 35mm films at once.

If they're like my holders you can develop a single 120 film in them too. Just rotate the two halves to unlock and change the spacing to match your film. Before you start loading film into them in a changing bag, have a practice with a spare film in the open, then in the bag.

I used to do it this way for 35mm...

1) Extract the end of the film from the cannister, cut it straight across then cut the corners at 45 degrees
2) Insert the first 25mm into the developing spool in the daylight
3) Load tank, spool, lid and scissors into the changing bag
4) Close changing bag (point of no return, so make sure you have everything in there you'll need)
5) Transfer film onto spool by rotating two halves of spool back and forth
6) When there's only a couple of inches of film left, cut it close to the cannister
7) Transfer the last few inches, then place the holder in the tank and put the lid on

I've not tried 120, but I'd imagine it'll go much the same way except that you can't cut the corners until it's in the bag

Keith.

Kenzie 15-07-15 06:38 AM

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I have a spare 35mm film that was in one of the cameras I bought so I have practised with that. I do have a really old 120 film as well I could play with. I think the first one will be a 127 b&w film. Just need to know how long to develop it for. Can't find any info on it. Its Rera Pan 100 and I will be using Ilford ID11. I'm guessing 8 mins at 20c.

keith_d 15-07-15 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenzie (Post 3019005)
I have a spare 35mm film that was in one of the cameras I bought so I have practised with that. I do have a really old 120 film as well I could play with. I think the first one will be a 127 b&w film. Just need to know how long to develop it for. Can't find any info on it. Its Rera Pan 100 and I will be using Ilford ID11. I'm guessing 8 mins at 20c.


A quick google got me:

127 size Traditional black and white film

ISO 100, Supergrain, 1+12, 6 Min., 20°C (68°F).
ISO 100, R09/Rodinal, 1+25, 9 Min., 20°C (68°F).
ISO 100, Microphen, Stock, 9 Min., 20°C (68°F).
ISO 100, D-76, Stock, 9 Min., 20°C (68°F).

The time for ID-11 should be the same as D76 since they're pretty much identical.

johnnyrod 15-07-15 10:56 AM

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Is it not in the massive dev chart then?

Kenzie 15-07-15 05:34 PM

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Yes, it can be done as the same for the 120 version. I emailed the guy I buy the film from.
Managed to get the stubborn XA2 to fire at last. Got some silver oxide SR44 batteries for it and stripped it down and messed around with the shutter button. Stupid electronic cameras!

Sir Trev 16-07-15 09:21 PM

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I agree wit the electronic camera comment Kenzie. Although I got Lady Poppy's old P30t to work it eats batteries so it's clearly not that happy (unless the strip of batteries I have is older than I think and they're the problem).

Speaking of the P30t, I finished a roll and popped it in to Jessops on Saturday for their develop and scan service at £8. Daughter picked it up for me today and I've had a quick look. Not too bad really. Couple of examples:

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/339/1...cf5c1d80_b.jpgJust planted by Trevor Laight, on Flickr

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/418/1...cd6fb293_b.jpgSmells nice! by Trevor Laight, on Flickr

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/465/1...319cba28_b.jpgIt was a nice cuppa by Trevor Laight, on Flickr

Kenzie 16-07-15 09:30 PM

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Nice. My P30t is acting up and not firing. Fresh batteries as well. I just loaded a 127 film into a spool and into the tank for developing tomorrow. I may have screwed it up as the film jammed and I had to unspool it. No idea what side of the film I touched. Will find out tomorrow! Going to drop the Zorki film in for processing. I have another 35mm film but have no idea what its from.

Kenzie 17-07-15 03:26 PM

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Got the Zorki done. A few of the better shots:

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...psotugk5x4.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...ps6xbrkpdx.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...pslcpnpusq.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...ps0brc2du6.jpg

Pretty much as scanned but with the vignetting removed.

Kenzie 17-07-15 06:06 PM

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Also Asda can only do C41 processing

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Sir Trev 17-07-15 06:10 PM

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Looking good Kenzie.

Kenzie 19-07-15 02:46 PM

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Some more from the OM10

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...psz4ian2a0.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...psnn5vhpuv.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...pslkvlwws5.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...psc2cbpka0.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...ps2zs0jh7q.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...psk3rmtxtr.jpg

Kenzie 20-07-15 08:05 PM

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Anyone know best practice for disposing of used photographic chemicals?

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maviczap 20-07-15 08:08 PM

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Ring the council up

Kenzie 20-07-15 08:27 PM

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IBC charge 38 quid to collect. According to Kodak, most can be put down the sink except fixer which will contain silver

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Kenzie 21-07-15 06:37 AM

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How do I know how much developer to use? I have an AP Compact tank.

keith_d 21-07-15 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenzie (Post 3019748)
IBC charge 38 quid to collect. According to Kodak, most can be put down the sink except fixer which will contain silver

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Commercial quantities of fixer are generally collected for silver reclamation. For small amounts you can add zinc or iron shavings to precipitate the silver, leave it for a day or two, then filter and dispose of the liquid down the drain. The slurry of containing the silver and remaining iron goes in regular solid waste.

Do not put used fixer into septic tank systems. The silver kills the bugs that make them work properly.

Kenzie 21-07-15 05:53 PM

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I have read that wire wool would do.

Kenzie 21-07-15 06:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenzie (Post 3019782)
How do I know how much developer to use? I have an AP Compact tank.

Apparently some bright spark decided to put the requirements on the base. Just need to work out the mix ratios.

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