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Definitely not crass mate

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http://www.visordown.com/discount-ra...k/16987-6.html

Shows the Super Sic pic to be legit and compared with other riders.

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+1

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Thanks to all the people that complained to the BBC, they admitted that it was a mistake NOT to have mentioned it in the 6 o'clock sports news last Sunday.

I sholud bleedy think so.

Feeble excuse of having run out of time to include it, so Man U getting thrashed deserved getting preference.

So a football headline is more important than a human being losing his life.

Thats whats wrong with TV

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http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/311020...imoncelli.html

If this goes ahead i will wheel the bike outside and give it a good thrashing on the driveway

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Awesome idea. When my mate Teejey died, we all rocked up to the funeral on our motorbikes and gave it a handful of throttle as we arrived. Everyone loved it.

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I agree, that's a good idea, im going on record to say ii want that at my funeral.

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Great idea I like it.

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That would be excellent.

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I was expecting the Man U result ahead of MotoGP - football gets millions more viewers, despite being cr@p - but not being mentioned at all was unacceptable. My slightly cynical view at the time was that somebody in a position to make the decisions decided that, despite only being watched in the UK by 4 people, Dan Weldon was British and therefore his death was newsworthy. Simoncelli was Italian and therefore, somehow less important.

Still angry. Can you tell?

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+1

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Does anyone else wonder if his lid coming off was due to his hair (ie the amount he had), moving around when he got hit?

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What keeps your lid on is the chin strap, not the friction of the lining against a hairless bonce.

I suspect his lid coming off was more likely due to his head (and lid) being hit by 200kg of motorcycle and rider doing about a hundred miles an hour. 200MJ of kinetic energy has to go somewhere, and the strap failing is somewhat preferable to public decapitation.

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I thought I'd seen one of the marshalls carrying it off by the still-closed chin strap, tho I may well be wrong (and I don't intend to watch it again to check!)

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He apparently wore a helmet a size too large for his head so the above theory COULD possible have had an input in the helmet being taken off...

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No, MotoGP officials wouldn't have let him race if the helmet where to move any more than say what Rossi's did.

The helmet would have been made perfectly for rules & regulations for the season, and I'm sure they would have took his hair into account.

As someone has said above, the force of Rossi's bike and Edward's has to go somewhere unfortuantly it ended up the back of Simoncelli's helmet.

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http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-...lli/19398.html


Sounds pretty epic!!!

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Yes it does, the Italians know how to do the dramatic gesture well and in the case they've done it really well. Bravo.

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And fireworks at the end, I think that's a great touch

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'Series organisers Dorna have accepted the request made by Simoncelli's father, Paolo, for a minute of noise instead of silence. Every bike engine will be revved together in respect, with fireworks possibly launched at the conclusion.'

Read more: http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-...#ixzz1cjlINUpf

Bravo, that will sound awesome.

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bit late there dude^ :p But yea suppose you highlighted a cool bit :)

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I think this will be must watch.
I give the FIM and Dorna their dues for giving 58 a final run and retiring it after the race.
It would be fitting if Loris then won wearing 58

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The tribute is up on YouTube now for anyone that hasn't seen it, awesome does not begin to describe it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwxstosxqOw

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These things have a tendency to disappear from Youtube as soon as Dorna spots them, so if the above link stops working the official video is at http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2011...rco+Simoncelli

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It's on the official MotoGP channel (and actually the same video is embedded on the motogp.com site on the page you linked to). So it won't be removed any time soon :)

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Good point. And the Youtube video is significantly higher quality than the one on the MotoGP web site proper.

An impressive sight, and the mix of 2-stroke singles and 4-stroke fours made for a lovely soundtrack.

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Nice ending but I expected a lot more noise - 50+ riders all revving the a*se of their machines. TBH, I'm not sure what tribute would have been fitting for the bloke. Shame his dad wasn't shown there either.
Terrible loss.

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RIP.
http://forums.sv650.org/attachment.p...1&d=1320734870

Full size image here
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/2339/supersica41.jpg

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I think that's what Paolo originally asked for, but practically speaking all of those bikes were about to go out and do one of the longest races of the season. Would you want to risk damage to your engine half an hour before the last race of the season?

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I guess I thought they'd use spare bikes and it was the end of the season and the championship had been decided.

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The spare bikes (in the premier class) are used for flag-to-flag bike changes when it starts bucketing down, and the weather was rather changeable at Valencia this weekend so they'd have wanted to keep those bikes in tip-top condition.

The winners of the Moto2 and MotoGP championships might have already been decided but the 125s hadn't, and even if first place has gone there are other riders competing for the remaining places. Pedrosa and Dovizioso were fighting over third in the MotoGP, Crutchlow and Abraham were fighting for Rookie of the Year, and everyone else was scrapping for their own personal achievement.

And a win is a win - even if the championship's gone, a podium is still a podium, a prize is still a prize, a race is still a race.

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Very fitting tribute to Marco
Also running Loris running 58 and taking it to a finish and retiring (Loris and 58 ) was a good tribute

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+1

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Response from press complaints commission...


Further to our previous correspondence, the Commission has now considered your complaint about an article in Daily Mail. It has decided that it is not possible, in the circumstances, to examine your complaint further under the Editors’ Code of Practice.

As we have made clear previously, the Commission generally deals only with complaints from those directly involved. On this occasion, it did not consider that it could waive its rules and investigate your third party complaint further. Its decision on this matter is below.

Although the Commissioners have come to this view, they have asked me to send a copy of your complaint to the editor so that they are aware of your concerns.

If you are dissatisfied with the way in which your complaint has been handled you should write within one month to the Independent Reviewer, whose details can be found in our How to Complain leaflet or on the PCC website at the following link:

http://www.pcc.org.uk/about/whoswho/...entreview.html

We are grateful to you for giving us the opportunity to consider your concerns.

Yours sincerely




Chris Paget
chris.paget@pcc.org.uk


The Commission received 11 complaints regarding the coverage of the death of the Moto GP driver Marco Simoncelli in the Malaysian Grand Prix in October 2011. The complainants considered that the publication of photographs which showed close up images of the accident which led to Mr Simoncelli’s death and the subsequent reactions of Mr Simoncelli’s family were tasteless, distressing, insensitive and overly graphic. It was the position of the complainants that the televising of live sport created the opportunity for tragedy to be aired, however, unlike live television broadcasts, newspapers had a choice about whether, and in what detail, a story should be covered. The newspapers’ coverage of the death of Mr Simoncelli was a case-in-point; it necessitated a more sensitive and tasteful approach to publication.

The Commission made clear that while it considers all complaints from members of the public, many complaints from parties who are not directly affected by the matters about which they are complaining, and especially those that are framed under the terms of Clause 5, pose substantial difficulties. Under the terms of Clause 5 (Intrusion into grief or shock), the press, in cases of personal grief and shock must ensure that approaches or enquires are made with sympathy and discretion and any publication must be handled sensitively.

The Commission considered that, in this instance, it could not pursue the matter further without the involvement of the directly affected parties. Mr Simoncelli’s family or their personal representatives were the correct parties to complain about the coverage. The Commission made clear that this was for reasons of co-operation, information and consent: often it will not be possible to come to a view under the Code without the input of a first party. In addition, any remedial action as a result of the complaint – or any decision issued by the Commission – would require consent. In this case, the Commission had contacted the family via the Moto GP in order to establish whether they wished to complain about the coverage. The Moto GP had made clear that the family did not wish to complain.

The Commission understood the position outlined by the complainants; however, it had to decide whether it was able to pursue the matter without the consent and co-operation of Mr Simoncelli’s family. It decided that it was unable to do so: it was for the family to complain about the coverage. It was not able to engage with the newspaper – or arrange for any remedial action – without the family’s consent. Ultimately, the Commission considered that it was unable to take the matter forward. However, it wished to take the opportunity of its decision to bring the matter to the newspapers’ attention.

In addition, one complainant considered that it was misleading to state that Mr Simoncelli had crashed at 150 miles per hour. Under the terms of Clause 1 (Accuracy) of the Code, newspapers must take care not to publish inaccurate, misleading or distorted information. Given the article reported a fatality following a high-speed motorcycle accident, the Commission did not consider that the reference to crash happening at a 150 miles per hour could be misleading in such a way as to constitute a breach of the Code. Furthermore, it could not be said that the reference to the speed at which Mr Simoncelli crashed at, if indeed inaccurate, would be deemed significant enough to engage the terms of Clause 1 (ii), which state that a significant inaccuracy must be corrected, promptly and with due prominence. The Commission did not establish a breach of the Code on this aspect of the complaint.



Chris Paget
Complaints Officer

Press Complaints Commission
Halton House
20/23 Holborn
London EC1N 2JD

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I was looking at this thread earlier today - still gutted.

I didn't see the daily mail coverage but from reading the above I'm glad I didn't.

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The PCC is a total waste of time. Even if it'd come out on your side, it has no actual power to do anything. If it had been set up with some teeth, we wouldn't have got to the situation we have now with the Levenson Enquiry, because none of the hacking and other intrusion would have been allowed to get that far.

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It has teeth. The problem is that by design it's encumbered with such a huge conflict of interest that it never bites.

The "we only take complaints from the family" angle was used in response to Jan Moir's article about Stephen Gately, which was far, far, far more sinister than the Mail splashing stills from Sic's crash on their web site.

But that's for another (Leveson-related) thread. Sic's gone, I'm rather at a loss as to who to wave a flag for next season. So I'll be wearing my Simoncelli tshirt to Silverstone in June regardless, same as I did at Brno and Misano last year.

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This