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650 24-01-19 12:58 PM

sv1000's are now ULEZ exempt
 
I put the leg work in, we're all good. I'm just waiting on confirmation to see if any other owners need to do the same as I did, or if my work has cleared us all. I think the latter will be the case.


https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7915/...f98dce1a_b.jpg

Happy riding, guys.

zsv650s 24-01-19 01:11 PM

Re: sv1000's are now ULEZ exempt
 
Well done very useful TBF we shouldn't have to it's not like we hang about in traffic.

650 24-01-19 01:21 PM

Re: sv1000's are now ULEZ exempt
 
It's based on whether your bike is Euro 3 registered and/or nOX levels. Ours just happen to be 0.1 under the upper limit for nOX

zsv650s 24-01-19 01:49 PM

Re: sv1000's are now ULEZ exempt
 
By the skin of its teeth then nice.��

ophic 24-01-19 01:50 PM

Re: sv1000's are now ULEZ exempt
 
So you'd expect that the 650 would be as well?

Can we get details of said legwork?

Nice job, btw!

Adam Ef 24-01-19 05:19 PM

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I think the 650 is on the list as being ok already. Not sure if all years are, but when I submitted my K8 details on the website it said it was fine.

Adam Ef 24-01-19 05:20 PM

Re: sv1000's are now ULEZ exempt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 650 (Post 3098252)
I put the leg work in...


Good work.

ophic 24-01-19 09:22 PM

Re: sv1000's are now ULEZ exempt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam Ef (Post 3098269)
I think the 650 is on the list as being ok already. Not sure if all years are, but when I submitted my K8 details on the website it said it was fine.

anything twin spark is most likely fine. Anything prior is currently not permitted. I have a K3 :(

Chris_SVS 24-01-19 09:37 PM

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No relevance to me but my old K6 (the last single spark) is chargeable

650 25-01-19 10:17 AM

Re: sv1000's are now ULEZ exempt
 
It's very relevant. If a 2004 1000cc bike can get through this, so can yours.

Here's what you guys need to do:

Get your V5 - look on the inside of the front page (so page 2, if you like)
Look at the bottom left, there should be a list of emissions values
Look at the nOX value. If this is under 0.15 - you're good to go
Scan the entirety of the V5 - so do it as double sided under the settings, assuming your scanner can do this
Go here and upload it, along with the bike details such as plate number, etc: https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/cc-...y-wizard-37743

They take about two weeks. But like I've said before, I'm waiting on confirmation from them about the SV1000 now being fine for me - does that mean anyone else has to do this that owns the same bike? They'll let me know.

I'd hazzard a guess that all SV650's that are injected will pass this without issue.

650 25-01-19 10:20 AM

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And on a side note, my bike still shows as subject to ULEZ - but I've got an Email confirming it's not. So I don't give two hoots what the site says anymore.

ophic 25-01-19 10:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 650 (Post 3098310)
And on a side note, my bike still shows as subject to ULEZ - but I've got an Email confirming it's not. So I don't give two hoots what the site says anymore.

yeah the site simply uses the registration to determine when the bike was built and the EURO regs in place at the time. Basically was it built to be EURO4 compliant.

650 25-01-19 04:19 PM

Re: sv1000's are now ULEZ exempt
 
Euro 3, for bikes. Euro 4, for bikes.

Chris_SVS 25-01-19 04:42 PM

Re: sv1000's are now ULEZ exempt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 650 (Post 3098309)
It's very relevant. If a 2004 1000cc bike can get through this, so can yours.

Here's what you guys need to do:

Get your V5 - look on the inside of the front page (so page 2, if you like)
Look at the bottom left, there should be a list of emissions values
Look at the nOX value. If this is under 0.15 - you're good to go
Scan the entirety of the V5 - so do it as double sided under the settings, assuming your scanner can do this
Go here and upload it, along with the bike details such as plate number, etc: https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/cc-...y-wizard-37743

They take about two weeks. But like I've said before, I'm waiting on confirmation from them about the SV1000 now being fine for me - does that mean anyone else has to do this that owns the same bike? They'll let me know.

I'd hazzard a guess that all SV650's that are injected will pass this without issue.

I'm in Northern Ireland and no longer own said SV. :p But since I transferred it online I still have the V5.. 0.100

650 26-01-19 08:42 AM

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There we go, super within limitations!

So that's both sv650's and sv1000's in the clear.

What year was it, again?

Chris_SVS 26-01-19 09:36 AM

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2006

Skripthor 26-01-19 09:56 AM

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Hi,

This is all very interesting. I have a SV650 N K3, sent a question to Suzuki regarding the NOx on those, as the V5C is empty in the emissions section for NOx. Awaiting reply. I don't know enough about engine differences between K6 and K3 but I am expecting the NOx values might be different... If anyone has a clue would be nice to hear. Thanks

Chris_SVS 26-01-19 10:44 AM

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A K3 should be the same as a K6

650 26-01-19 11:22 AM

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It is, other than the twin plug thing, I don't think anything else changed.

ophic 28-01-19 06:18 PM

Re: sv1000's are now ULEZ exempt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Skripthor (Post 3098353)
Hi,

This is all very interesting. I have a SV650 N K3, sent a question to Suzuki regarding the NOx on those, as the V5C is empty in the emissions section for NOx. Awaiting reply. I don't know enough about engine differences between K6 and K3 but I am expecting the NOx values might be different... If anyone has a clue would be nice to hear. Thanks

My V5 is also blank in those sections.

Apparently what we need is a Certificate of Confirmity, which are available from Suzuki, unfortunately at a charge of £95 :shock:

650 29-01-19 10:45 AM

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Chances are....if the V5 doesn't show the nOX level, neither will the C.O.C (that acronym gives me the shivers). So I'm not sure it's worth someone stumping up the £95 (plus it takes ages as it's paperwork dug out from an archive in Japan, then shipped to your dealer).

Maybe if a few of you got together and split the cost, it'll be worth the risk.

graham04 29-01-19 04:34 PM

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My 650 k6 on the V5 is ok for CO2 and NOX figures, however it fails on the HC figure when compared with Euro3. Are they only concerned with NOX ? The twin plug has a cleaner burn and was probably brought out to achieve Euro3 or better.

650 29-01-19 05:09 PM

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They're only concerned with NOx at the moment. I imagine this'll get tighter over the years.

So you should be all good...on your commute...from Swansea :D

graham04 29-01-19 05:45 PM

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Thankfully it will never cause me an issue, but it's all interesting stuff. It only takes some cretin of a Mayor who want's to make a name for himself or herself to cause havoc. I wonder if they will exempt classic / veteran cars and bikes. Several big cities are looking to ban them. If they are exempt then drag the old bantam out , dust it off and make smoke.

650 01-02-19 03:46 PM

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I can see why people are upset about this, but think about it - anything that can help lower pollution is surely a good thing, no matter how ill thought out it is.

ophic 01-02-19 04:21 PM

Re: sv1000's are now ULEZ exempt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 650 (Post 3098623)
I can see why people are upset about this, but think about it - anything that can help lower pollution is surely a good thing, no matter how ill thought out it is.

I think the impact is minimal and the people you're hitting are often the least able to manage the expenses.

People ride old bikes into London because they're cheap. They barely cause any congestion and the pollution is limited because they're not diesel and the journey times tend to be shorter.

And as you've pointed out, you can be riding a perfectly compliant bike and still not be allowed to ride it in London until you cough up for a document. That shouldn't be on us.

650 01-02-19 04:35 PM

Re: sv1000's are now ULEZ exempt
 
Hi again.

I mean this in the nicest possible way - but don't be fooled into thinking diesels are any worse than motorcycles. The SV1000 puts out 0.14g/km NOX, my friends 2 litre turbo diesel people carrier puts out 0.075. So considerably less. Don't forget, we don't have cats and older bikes are less efficient in the name of easier power delivery. I choke like hell when I'm stuck behind an older CBR for example, my VFR750 absolutely stinks (it's running fine, believe me)...so there's not much weight in a car being any worse than a bike.

andy650 01-02-19 05:40 PM

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NOX, nor CO2, are the full story. Diesels are terrible on particulates, which will be the next public health scare.

Bikes, in the grand scheme of things, have little impact. Banning the old ones is almost pointless, and very unfair on those with less money.

The only reason diesels were ever encouraged, was their lower CO2 output, sadly this was at the expense of public health, which they are now discovering (they were warned in the mid 90's about it, but as usual they ignored the scientific advice....)

650 02-02-19 08:47 AM

Re: sv1000's are now ULEZ exempt
 
We could go round in circles all day about how it's cruel/not unfair. Either way, it's a standard that some vehicles don't meet - therefore they're subject to a charge. Personally I think they should be outright banned.

Adam Ef 02-02-19 10:01 AM

Re: sv1000's are now ULEZ exempt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 650 (Post 3098653)
...Personally I think they should be outright banned.


They would be if the government hadn't done so much to promote them to everyone for years.

glang 02-02-19 11:40 AM

Re: sv1000's are now ULEZ exempt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 650 (Post 3098628)
Hi again.

I mean this in the nicest possible way - but don't be fooled into thinking diesels are any worse than motorcycles. The SV1000 puts out 0.14g/km NOX, my friends 2 litre turbo diesel people carrier puts out 0.075. So considerably less. Don't forget, we don't have cats and older bikes are less efficient in the name of easier power delivery. I choke like hell when I'm stuck behind an older CBR for example, my VFR750 absolutely stinks (it's running fine, believe me)...so there's not much weight in a car being any worse than a bike.

True but as Andy says the total contribution to pollution from bikes is small because theyre far fewer and tend to do a lot less miles so clamping down has little effect overall. However, as we all know, there is a big political element to this subject as well....

Swin 03-02-19 06:00 AM

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Political element, and a financial one too - I believe other cities are watching London with interest to see how much of a return there is on this prohibition!
I changed my SV to a later model Vstrom as my back is bad, but with one eye on the ULEZ too, so I probably bought a much newer model than I would have done otherwise

Toooldtodie 05-02-19 08:00 PM

Re: sv1000's are now ULEZ exempt
 
Just checked my V5 on an 05 plate SV650, single plug and NOx is 0.108 so well under.

650 07-03-19 05:16 PM

Re: sv1000's are now ULEZ exempt
 
Had confirmation everyone needs to register their bike with TFL individually. Just scan V5, send via the ULEZ checker website as I've linked earlier.

stinkerbill 08-03-19 01:52 PM

Re: sv1000's are now ULEZ exempt
 
It's a shame our old curvys don't have the NOx levels on the V5 AND Suzuki rep told me that the Certificate of Conformity won't have it either... so looks like we're buggered.

Toooldtodie 16-04-19 10:56 AM

Re: sv1000's are now ULEZ exempt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 650 (Post 3100074)
Had confirmation everyone needs to register their bike with TFL individually. Just scan V5, send via the ULEZ checker website as I've linked earlier.


Thanks for the heads up on this.


Scanned my V5 and included MoT cert for good measure. Took them four days to process, but good news my K5 650S is exempt.
I don't normally ride into central London, but now at least if I do I won't be hit with an additional £12.50 charge. :D

650 16-04-19 11:49 AM

Re: sv1000's are now ULEZ exempt
 
No worries, happy to help :)


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