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My recent off, for anyone interested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5u9QPOWX4Io

Observations, braking skill and judgement seemed to escape me for a few fateful seconds. Oh and excuse the expletive.

But I did get back on my feet like a pro :smt003

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Ouchers. That happened quickly. Did you hit the van?

Hope you're ok

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yeah my bike did. I managed to miss it personally. Just been watching in slow motion - must have been by millimetres!

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Yeah you don't even see it hit. I did the same thing a couple years ago while filtering. What is your opinion on who is to blame?

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Not entirely sure. He did turn across my right of way and he's supposed to check it's clear before doing so. I believe one of the drivers flashed him to go.

But clearly I should have spotted the junction & gap in traffic. I completely didn't see it. I know this road - I do it every day.

So I'll relax and let the insurance handle it. At least there's not as much frustration over witnesses giving bad accounts etc when there's actual footage.

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i'll play devils advocate here.

way too fast acceleration in a bus lane. gap at junction so expect vehicles turning. obscured view due to lorry. your own fault.

what i dont understand was how well you were doing up until then with being cautious of the van and car with their indicator on.

put it down to a momentary lapse of reasoning.

glad your ok.

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Whilst all true, I wasn't speeding so I'm not sure how it'll go for the insurance. In theory he's not supposed to cause someone with right-of-way to have to adjust their course or speed.

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Don't feel too bad mate, this is something every single driver and rider does subconsciously, you go in to auto pilot on your regular routes. The commute, route to your mates, etc.

You're aware of your surroundings but simple things just pass you by. No one remembers all their regular routes unless something particularly odd happens.

It's human nature.

Good thing is you're alright and judging the the timing and angle lucky you weren't under the van!

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Very lucky. In fact if he'd spotted me at all and hit his brakes, I'd probably have become better acquainted with his passengers.

I'm remarkably uninjured. I do need a new jacket and trousers though so shows what proper kit does. Oh and a new front end :(

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Ouchie :( glad you are ok.

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Yep. Fraid I'm with Bibio. Looked like a sudden rush of blood to the head coupled with slow reflexes. Sorry.

I hope for better from the insurance for you though.

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Do bear in mind that action cams have a very wide-angle lens. Distances and speed appear exaggerated.

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This is why 'undertaking' on the road is so closely related to 'undertaker' LOL Passing traffic on left is always a bit dodgy as people don't expect it, and van driver may have been looking for a bus but not something smaller. Glad you are OK.

Best summed up as Sh!t happens !

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I'm guessing he might have seen a bus but taxis, motorcycles and cyclists are all allowed to that bus lane. Most drivers are very careful about crossing them.

This guy I think just went on a headlight flash from a queuing driver without actually looking to see if it was clear.

Not that I'm defending the lack of self-preservation instinct that seems to have overcome me at that particular moment.

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In the world of cyclists we have a saying, "No point being dead right if you're right and dead"

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I'm familiar with the saying, and agree with it fully.

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The type of accident you've had is one which bus drivers are always wary of, vehicles will regularly turn through these "keep clear" gaps even if there's a chuffing great double decker coming towards them, so always approach with caution when there's stationary traffic in the outside lane.

Before you passed the red plumber's van, you can see the white minibus through the gap between the van and the lorry, so you should perhaps have anticipated the possibility it could appear in front of you?

And yes, I'm a bus driver :)

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Bus lanes. Dodgy. Slowly slowly.

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Thanks for advice folks. I've kinda already stated I know where I went wrong. I'm not some green teenager, I know better and I'm really quite annoyed at myself right now. By all means keep posting advice; I'm just saying, I know.

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Ah yes, that utopian world where nothing seems to be in colour. Traffic lights, cross hatching on the roads, Belisha beacons, even the flashing lights of emergency vehicles all appear to fade into the same strip of Tarmac ( usually about two foot in front of them), that your average cyclist deems to think they own.

Oh, and as for sounds in this brave new world, nothing can be heard except the repetitive beat of 'I want to ride my bicycle, I want to ride it where I like' in their iPod headphones!

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^ok 8-[

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Absolutely non of the highway code applies to cyclists, well that's their story and they're sticking to it.

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There are some poor road users out there in/on all modes of transport I consider myself to be responsible and law abiding.

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I applaud you for having the guts to put this video up knowing you may get an ear bashing, I think it's an invaluable thing for comparatively new riders like me to see. Who knows this video may even save someone from a similar incident or worse.

👍

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No point having a helmet cam if you can't post clips of yourself doing really stupid things :)

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I got an sj4000 for Christmas but still haven't used it partly due to my shocking indecision on where to mount in which will be followed by the next indecision of how to mount it

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While you're thinking, get a chest harness for under a tenner to try it out. Main problem is the battery life so for longer trips, it needs connecting up to a charger

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Its good that you realise your mistake.
Regularly analysing your footage to try and find out what you could have done better is a real value of recording footage.

All too often I've seen videos posted and the rider claims the other person is entirely at fault, they don't like it when you point out their error(s) and it can degenerate into unpleasantness.

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This often results from 2 people talking about 2 different things.

There's "what you could have done better to predict/avoid/handle the accident" which is normally general good driving/riding practice.

Then there's "who caused the accident" which is who broke the rules causing the situation to arise.

Just because a biker doesn't want to crash and therefore (normally! :p) takes every reasonable precaution to avoid other drivers doing stupid and illegal things, does not excuse other drivers from doing these stupid and illegal things in the first place.

So being "not at fault" doesn't mean your riding is perfect and there's nothing you could have done better.

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That's a very good summation Ophic
I hope you get the bike fixed up soon and get back on the road. :)

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Thanks although it's an old bike so i'll most likely have to do all the fixing myself, otherwise it'll be a write off and then some.

Until then I get to ride this:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7584/1...3ea03a42_c.jpgDSC_0273 by Bob Goddard, on Flickr

:eek:

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OK that killed the thread lol. No-one talk to the guy with the fake Harley.

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Its a better bike than a harley.
Shaft drive, drum brake, me like ��

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If you absolutely HAVE to ride one, they aren't too bad... ;)

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Hope you've got tassels on your leathers!

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Just make sure you're wearing your Sons of Anarchy gear, tasseled jacket and arseless chaps ;)

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Beat you

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Only on the tassel's, you didn't mention arseless chaps :p

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True, couldn't bring myself to type it

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Yeah I have actually. Mainly thanks to that minibus.
Lucky for me the @rse hasn't entirely worn through.