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pencil shavings 22-11-07 01:10 PM

Popping on over run
 
When I first got my bike, 03 SV650S, it would pop and crackle really nicly on the over run at about 4500 revs. Now I only get a really small burble at about 3500, but no pops and bangs. Nothings been changed in terms of fuling, air in take or exhaust, no engine mods at all actually.
The exhaust is a straight though two bros race can.

Anyone got any ideas of things I could check or do to get my pops and bangs back!?

G 22-11-07 01:44 PM

Re: Popping on over run
 
If there was a slight air leak at a joint, this can be a cause of poping and banging of an exhaust system.

Over time the slight leak may be subjected to a build up of carbon deposits and hence the hole would gradually become blocked, stopping or reducing poping and banging.

pencil shavings 22-11-07 02:45 PM

Re: Popping on over run
 
I was thinking that it could be somthing along the lines of reduced air intake, but I thought it would more likley be down to the air filter than a gap in the joint.
If I put a free flowing air filter in would I be able to regain the popping on the over run? because it does sound the danglies!

yorkie_chris 22-11-07 04:14 PM

Re: Popping on over run
 
You'd make it run really lean and burn things without remapping.

Does your pointy thing have PAIR system on?

Smudge 22-11-07 04:18 PM

Re: Popping on over run
 
yep Chris ive still to disable mine and get a remap before i burn it out

yorkie_chris 22-11-07 04:23 PM

Re: Popping on over run
 
It'll be right with just a can

The PAIR doesnt actually effect the mixture at all on normal running, it just burns any excess fuel on the overrun by admitting air

Smudge 22-11-07 04:32 PM

Re: Popping on over run
 
yep i think its added after combustion

ThEGr33k 22-11-07 05:49 PM

Re: Popping on over run
 
http://www.peterverdonedesigns.com/i...cycle/pair.jpg

As you can see, just after.

Your popping might be affected by temprature. I notice mine pops more in warm dry weather. I think it requires the exhaust to be really hot, so as the weather is cold then the exhaust will be cooler.

Just a guess though ;)

pencil shavings 22-11-07 06:05 PM

Re: Popping on over run
 
thats a good point about the temperature. except i thought that cooler air was higher in O2 and i thought that was the crucial part in the bang and pop. are possibly the O2 content is higher but the exuast dosent heat up enough to make use of this?

has any one else experianced this?

thor 22-11-07 06:40 PM

Re: Popping on over run
 
In cold weather air is denser you you get more oxygen for the same volume.

yorkie_chris 22-11-07 09:02 PM

Re: Popping on over run
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pencil shavings (Post 1348552)
cooler air was higher in O2 and i thought that was the crucial part in the bang and pop.

Quote:

Originally Posted by thor (Post 1348568)
In cold weather air is denser you you get more oxygen for the same volume.

Yup, the %age of O2 remains the same, colder air is generaly more dense.

So I would say that in cold weather the mix will be leaner, same volumetric flow, more mass flow for the same fuel.
So in hot weather there'll be a bit more fuel there to burn with the PAIR air and cause them bangs.

I'd remove the PAIR on general principle, its extra weight and complication that doesn't do much.

Smudge 23-11-07 08:44 AM

Re: Popping on over run
 
you environment killer you, last night i started her up with some revs as i was in a tunnel and wanted to go rrooaarr but too much revs and she went rrooaar oooooo bang and a flame shot out lighting the tunnel up i thought i betta get out of hear cos it sounded like a gun shot lol

ThEGr33k 23-11-07 09:35 AM

Re: Popping on over run
 
LMAO Smudge.

I think it is probably a mixture of several things, rest assured it is in no doubt all directly related to the temp. :smt023


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