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Just read this!...good grief...

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:lol: Awesome. :D

Stupid rule anyway.

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What the **** that didnt make any sense.

You can smoke in a personal company car anyway, pool cars which are open to use by anyone and vans that can be appointed to anyone cant be smoked in.

They cant just review that, Its law.

If they have their own policy saying that people can not smoke in ANY company vehicle, then they are stupid anyway.

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That's the spirit! Back to the good old days hey?:p

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What!? Noooooo, all my respect for you, gone in an instant. :(

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Er why?

Have you died from passive smoking as a result of somebody lighting up in the same van as you?

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I'm surprised that they're thinking of changing policy. Not only is it the law, it's for good health reasons.

The picture on this link is disgusting and is a very good reason not to change policy. Good reason not to smoke at all in fact. I haven't posted the pic as it is pretty revolting and it's up to you whether you click the link or not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Cancerous_lung.jpg

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The smoking ban is ace its the best thing that has happened I can now go out for a drink and not have a tight chest in the morning, smell like an ash try its just great!

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But how do you hurt your neck smoking out a car window?!

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i do miss the novelty of going to the giffard, downing the beer and air guitaring whilst smoking on a big cigar... but i think the ban is a pretty good thing really, personally i am not too fussed by smoke, but it is understandable for people to say 'why should all your habbits take their toll on my health'

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The thing that does it for me is if there was one pub in town with a big f### off sign saying "IF YOU COME IN HERE YOU WILL DIE OF CANCER" I'd be in there, because I like a smoke with a drink, and don't like hypothermia. As it is a few of the places I frequent shut a little earlier, as soon as the shutters come down the ashtrays come out. :D
You should have a choice in the matter, but a blanket ban is just daft.

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errrmm....when you get hit by a filtering motorbike as it goes past?!:D

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Not to the rest of us who have had to endure years of selfish smokers it isn't:D

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I'm all for seperate spaces, that way everybodys happy

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you've got your space

i'll be inside

;)

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And I get hypothermia, hows that fair?

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ya big jessy, put ya coat on ;)

personally i'd be more worried about lung cancer :smt103

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Quit the fags, then you don't need the apartheid. Did you click on the link, Chris? The white stuff's malignant cancer, the brown/black is tobacco tar:pukel:

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Yup, smoking is a disgusting and stupid habit.

I still don't like that its illegal to smoke in an establishment where all the customers and staff smoke, they choose to smoke themselves so passive smoking is a moot point. Wheres the sense in that? Government preservation of the colour of the wallpaper?

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i've never seen a pub without some non-smokers, so your example is hardly the norm, if you all smoke and you all want to then go ahead, personally i wouldn't enforce the law in that situation, but what if someone wants to use the pub who isn't a smoker? surely it can't be quite so "local" that you know every person who ever uses it? some people don't enjoy the rancid taste, and having to wash the smell out of everything they wore the next day. regardless of any health benefits, it's an entirely unpleasant experience for me, which is enough to send you outside for a huddle in my book

:-({|=

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If everybody in a place smokes and a that is a massive problem, then go elsewhere

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i would, but thankfully i don't have to any more, you do, usually out the back, crowded under a lean to with the bins, trying to get the damn lighter to catch, while the rain flies past sideways:smt043

it's warm in here \\:D/

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I just go out later and catch last orders and a stoppy back, best of both

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just so long as i'm not there:smt023

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that is very true :rolleyes: :p

well i won't be, not much point in us ever going out if you gonna be stood outside the whole time :smt043

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I really DON'T mean to be sanctimonious here, just genuinely interested.

But - I'm curious as to how smokers think about the health issues. I've never smoked (well apart from a few when I was 19 and thought it looked cool, and quickly realised that it doesn't and that the taste is even worse).

So - what do you think about this? Don't care? Think 'I'll think about it if it happens'? Or 'you gotta die of something'?

:confused:

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Not really sure, somewhere in between, its not like I go through 2 packs a day either, more like 4 or 5 rollies a day. I was born, at some point I'll die, preferably quickly. One of my great uncles lived untill he was 94, rode a norton and smoked a pipe. A friend of mine played rugby, never smoked and died at 39. So I put it down to fate, whenever its my day, ta ra.

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yeah but you're not smoking a pipe... theres the key important fact

cigarettes can be thought of as cool by young impressionable types, however pipes are cool full stop

the sign of a true refined gentleman, all you would need is the crossword to do whilst puffing on the pipe and sipping the ale

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i'd be happy to frequent a pipe smoking bar :)

maybe grow a gandalf beard aswell... i worry about myself

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Ahhh but some would argue that pipe smoking causes cancer of the mouth and tongue.

Its yet another nanny state thing, helmet laws, seatbelt laws, warning signs on everything, all these things aimed at protecting you from yourself. IMO if you want to be a daft f###er and kill yourself its your business, nowt to do with any pen pushing types in the civil service.

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that is true, as with cigars, but we all know they are cool

i can understand smokers being ****ed off with it, but perhaps some of the ones that are wanting to give it up, perhaps this has given some benefit? certainly makes them think twice before having to go outside in the rain just to inhale cockroach pesticide, jet fuel, cyanide and the other foul hundreds of ingredients in tobacco

perhaps if tobacco was just tobacco... perhaps in that sense cigars would be healthier?

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Much prefered 4-star

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can i just add the following.....

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i made the story up.

i fibbed.

i was bored.

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For the record I don't smoke, and I am not a fan (eg. many smokers I see have a different attitude toward littering than non smokers IMO) But most of the arguments I see against smokers are the same as those used against bikers. Dangerous/Bad for you Noisey/smelly antisocial etc. etc.

In the same way that seeing photos of horrific motorcycle accidents hasn't put me off motorbikes, I would imagine it is the same for many smokers.

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Business take whatever steps needed to maximise their profit. If turning your pub non-smoking would be such a popular decision most pubs would have been non smoking long before the ban came in to action, and reaping the rewards of it. I don't recall a single non-smoking pub in Newcastle, and only one in Manchester before the ban!

I'm a non-smoker but to be honest- I never went to the pub for my health. I love now having to walk in to every buildings entrance now in a huge dense cloud of smoke. Lovely Jubbly. I quite enjoy them being smoke free now, but think the decision should be left to the owners

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:thumbsup:

As a non-smoker I like not stinking of smoke when I leave the pub, but I would NEVER say the ban was a good thing.

Oh... I also feel the need point out that the amount of smugness from the pro-ban members in this thread stinks worse than the smoke ever did. :p

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Lol indeed

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Thats abit of a silly thing to say.

So you have an accident in a car at 30mph and brake your neck after hitting your head on the windscreen. Some poor ambulance person has to turn up and sort out your broken neck which could have just been a slightly sore neck or nothing at all. You then cost the NHS rediculous amounts of money to fix you up, you then have to be in a wheel chair the rest of you life potentially paralysed and unable to work, and therefore on disability and incapacity benefits costing the country an absolute fortune and aswell as being completely useless.

Same goes for falling off your bike at even 15mph, you hit your head hard and are left with severe brain damage or completely brain dead. **insert the rest of the above here**

To say that we live in a nany state because we have very beneficial rules like you have to wear a helmet or a seatbelt is completely rediculous :confused::confused::confused:

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Allow me to quote Mr Dennis Leary...

"There's a guy, he's English -I don't know if we should hold that against him- but apparently this is his life's dream 'cause he's going country to country, he has a Senate hearing coming up in the next few weeks, and this is what he wants to do: He wants to make the warnings on the packs bigger! Yeah, he wants the whole front of the pack to be one big warning like the problem is that we just haven't noticed yet.

Like he's gonna get his way and all of a sudden smokers around the world will be like, 'Yeah Bill, I've got some cigarettes -HOLY . .. .. .. .! These things are bad for you? I thought they were good for you. I thought they vitamin C in them and stuff.'

You dolt, it doesn't matter how big the warning are. You could have cigarettes that were called warnings. You could have cigarettes that came in a black pack, with a skull and crossbones in the front, and called TUMORS, and smokers would be lining up around the block, going 'I can't wait to get my hands on these things.'"

EDIT: Oh, and you're wrong, smoking IS cool. James Dean, Steve McQueen, John Wayne. "Cancer is just God's way of telling you you're too damn sexy for your own good...."