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Stu 03-03-08 09:56 AM

Lap times?
 
What's a respectable lap time at Brands Indy for an SV650?

tranx 03-03-08 08:12 PM

Re: Lap times?
 
In road trim I would say 1 minute is a good target. In race trim the front runners are doing 52 second laps.

Stu 03-03-08 10:42 PM

Re: Lap times?
 
Thanks, so 1'02 is not embarassing?

tranx 03-03-08 10:48 PM

Re: Lap times?
 
1'02 is not in the slightest bit embarrassing.

southy1978 04-03-08 07:16 PM

Re: Lap times?
 
Rather than start a new thread, how about an sv650 lap time of snetterton what would be respectable there?

Grinny 04-03-08 07:47 PM

Re: Lap times?
 
Front runners are doing 1m 16s, anything upto 1m 30s is respectable though!

What are you doing at the moment?

Blue_SV650S 04-03-08 07:57 PM

Re: Lap times?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 1436734)
Thanks, so 1'02 is not embarassing?

I'd say 1:02 is pretty strong for a novice group, middle ground on a not particularly rapid inters, slow for advanced.

Weazelz is a middle ish inters rider and was just shy of the 1min (58s IIRC) last time we were counting.

southy1978 04-03-08 07:57 PM

Re: Lap times?
 
I've managed a 1.24 so i'm more than happy with that at the mo! Standard sv650sport bar a high level exhaust. Need to sort the suspension and brakes out, the back straight is a killer when all the thou's are p****** past you!

sv650k4 04-03-08 08:10 PM

Re: Lap times?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by southy1978 (Post 1437969)
Rather than start a new thread, how about an sv650 lap time of snetterton what would be respectable there?


if you go on 2 mylaps you will beable 2 type in the track and it will bring you up the results for all races just find a minitwin race and it will give you times for everyone.;)

weazelz 05-03-08 08:59 AM

Re: Lap times?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue_SV650S (Post 1438029)
Weazelz is a middle ish inters rider and was just shy of the 1min (58s IIRC) last time we were counting.

that was round the GP circuit though :D [just kidding]

yeh, I was doing 58's round Brands last time out. which was a while ago though

metalmonkey 05-03-08 09:20 AM

Re: Lap times?
 
Have a look through this, hope that helps buddy. Its has some MRO lap times, so should include mini twins, I ain't got time to go through it all pick them all out.

http://www.mylaps.com/results/showev...?st=3&org=3829

Stu 05-03-08 10:42 AM

Re: Lap times?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue_SV650S (Post 1438029)
I'd say 1:02 is pretty strong for a novice group, middle ground on a not particularly rapid inters, slow for advanced.

Weazelz is a middle ish inters rider and was just shy of the 1min (58s IIRC) last time we were counting.

Thanks, that's what I was after - not interested in racers times (hence why I posted this in the trackday section :p) 'Thunder have you got a time at Brands yet?
So I don't need to return to the Novice group on any other track or bike?

Oh, and definetely include other tracks on this thread - just probably best to be clear which you are talking about ;)

What about you Blue at Brands Indy?

Blue_SV650S 05-03-08 10:57 AM

Re: Lap times?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 1438508)
Thanks, that's what I was after - not interested in racers times (hence why I posted this in the trackday section :p) 'Thunder have you got a time at Brands yet?
So I don't need to return to the Novice group on any other track or bike?

Oh, and definetely include other tracks on this thread - just probably best to be clear which you are talking about ;)

What about you Blue at Brands Indy?

Yep, you are deffo an inters rider now by the sounds dude, time to step up a rung! :smt045

As for my personal lap record at Brands - on my yella SV it's 52.29.

Stu 05-03-08 12:18 PM

Re: Lap times?
 
So where would I find most of the 10 secs difference?
later braking? I guess?

Tim in Belgium 05-03-08 12:24 PM

Re: Lap times?
 
What do you guys time your laps with?

I used a duct-taped on cheapo stopwatch at the 'Ring for bridge to gantry timing, but at least there you had a chance to reset between laps. Sounds like fun and gives you more of an idea if what feels like a fast lap is a fast lap.

metalmonkey 05-03-08 12:29 PM

Re: Lap times?
 
You can get proper lap timers, which I will get at some point they lock onto the beacon on the track to make sure they accurate, otherwise attach a beacon to your car/van if you want one best plave place would be motofourm.

Tim in Belgium 05-03-08 12:31 PM

Re: Lap times?
 
Oh yea, my best Bridge to Gantry time at the Nurburgring so far is 9:48 including slowing for waved yellows. Aiming for sub 9:45 next time.

Jester666 05-03-08 12:32 PM

Re: Lap times?
 
Most track days don't activate the beacons as they think it encourages racing.

Track Days are "practice days" and are generaly not timed.

Stu 05-03-08 12:33 PM

Re: Lap times?
 
I'm just going by the bike in front of me that I kept up with. He had a proper system, but just manual (push a button, not a transponder) just had a look on ebay & they're generally quite expensive. Plus I'm sure a trackday organiser wouldn't be happy to find you with a transponder - so high chance of losing it?
Is video a good method (obviously you only find out after)
Also what should your focus be? passing other bikes or lap times?

metalmonkey 05-03-08 12:41 PM

Re: Lap times?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jester666 (Post 1438641)
Most track days don't activate the beacons as they think it encourages racing.

Track Days are "practice days" and are generaly not timed.

Are true but after talking to the guy I got my bike from he, said most tracks just em switched on. long as your destrict with the use of ur timer they won't even notice.

But I'm not bothered about a timer at moment, I have other things to think about.

Tim in Belgium 05-03-08 12:42 PM

Re: Lap times?
 
I do lap timing at the 'Ring for general interest to see how I'm doing, it's a matter of mind set not to get sucked into racing, I always slow for flags, let faster bikes (and cars at the 'Ring) pass me. Again at a trackday it would be interesting to see your general trends, but I agree that it should be about having fun and keeping safe.

At some of the european track days they provide transponders and move people about the groups depending on their lap times. So I don't think timing automatically means more crashes.

Stu 05-03-08 12:46 PM

Re: Lap times?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bluethunder (Post 1438659)
Are true but after talking to the guy I got my bike from he, said most tracks just em switched on. long as your destrict with the use of ur timer they won't even notice.

I haven't even got a clue what you're trying to say dude. :confused:

Blue_SV650S 05-03-08 01:58 PM

Re: Lap times?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 1438617)
So where would I find most of the 10 secs difference?
later braking? I guess?

Without seeing you in action how can I possibly know?!!?!? ? with 10 seconds off, its safe to say there is probably room for improvement in ALL areas, some will be more prevalent than others if we could see you in action. But yes, I most commonly see people losing the majority of their time on the brakes and corner entry. This is where to get out of low to mid inters you need to really be working hard on ?running the brakes?. Do you do this at all at the moment??? ? if not at brands, I can guarantee you are losing >=4sec a lap on that alone ;)

My time was a 'official' time using a transponder, but for trackdays I'd look at making a cheap make-shift finger operated laptimer - look here

You are aware laptiming on a TD is strictly prohibited right?!!? ;)

Tim in Belgium 05-03-08 03:49 PM

Re: Lap times?
 
That blue make shift item looks ideal, although I'll install an extra switch as beeping over the start finish straight every time might be a bit of a give away ;)

Blue_SV650S 05-03-08 03:57 PM

Re: Lap times?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim in Belgium (Post 1438937)
That blue make shift item looks ideal, although I'll install an extra switch as beeping over the start finish straight every time might be a bit of a give away ;)

To be fair, if using the horn button, you would be unpluging the horn to do it anyway ;)

Tim in Belgium 05-03-08 04:00 PM

Re: Lap times?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue_SV650S (Post 1438947)
To be fair, if using the horn button, you would be unpluging the horn to do it anyway ;)

True...

Stu 05-03-08 04:55 PM

Re: Lap times?
 
Might be an idea to push the button at a slower part of the circuit every time (like bridge before Druids) might be more accurate than when you're flat out?

Blue_SV650S 05-03-08 08:39 PM

Re: Lap times?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 1438989)
Might be an idea to push the button at a slower part of the circuit every time (like bridge before Druids) might be more accurate than when you're flat out?

Shouldn't one be on the brakes at Druids and be seriously thinking about turning in!?! :D

I tend to use one of the grid lines at Brands to hit the button. And then try and fight the urge to have a look at the time as I need to be thinking about paddock hill, not looking at my laptime!!! :D

As for accuracy, on a trackday, you don't really need to know your laptimes down to hundredths of a second do you!! ;)

You never did say if you ran the brakes into turns ...

Stu 05-03-08 09:01 PM

Re: Lap times?
 
No, probably not :( nice & slow before entering any of those dangerous corner thingys. With 4 or 5 people coming off out of the 20 or so that I knew there, I was quite happy to finish the day still upright :)

Stu 05-03-08 09:03 PM

Re: Lap times?
 
oh, another question. rear brakes? yes use everthing you can or no don't waste your concentration/effort?

Blue_SV650S 05-03-08 09:06 PM

Re: Lap times?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 1439251)
No, probably not :( nice & slow before entering any of those dangerous corner thingys. With 4 or 5 people coming off out of the 20 or so that I knew there, I was quite happy to finish the day still upright :)

You asked the question ... that is where a fair bit of your lap times are then!! ;)

To be fair at 1:02s you is doing cool/better than most, but you did ask the question!! ;)


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