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wow 01-09-08 06:03 PM

Longer dogbones 41mm
 
I need your help. When i first got my bike I ordered some longer dogbones. When they arrived there was nothing to indicate that they were the 41 mm ones (the longest of the longer dogbones) instead of the 25mm ones (the normal longer dogbones). Nothing in the accompagnying fitting instructions or on the dogbones themselves. So I assumed these were the 25mm ones. I recently ordered another pair and the seller (ebay) assures me these are the 41 mm ones. Again there's nothing to say they are. I have just compared the new ones with the ones on the bike and they are the same length so that's not going to make any difference. I've measured mine and they are 18 cm long from top to bottom (edge). Is there someone out there that has the longer ones and can tell me if the 41mm ones are 18cm long? I hope someone can help. Thanks in advance.

Bibio 01-09-08 06:57 PM

Re: Longer dogbones 41mm
 
yup .. top to bottom .. 180mm ... centre to centre on the eyes is 151mm

i asked the same ?.. and found out for every 1mm over the standard lenght it is 10mm at back

you wont find much of a difference unless you drop the front aswell.

wow 01-09-08 06:59 PM

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Thanks Bibio. Yeah have dropped the front as well.

Geoffrey 01-09-08 07:09 PM

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So am I right in thinking that the longer the suspension linkages the lower the back end? I'm looking to raise the back end a little so should I be looking for shorter than standard Suspension linkages?

Bibio 01-09-08 07:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Geoffrey (Post 1611760)
So am I right in thinking that the longer the suspension linkages the lower the back end? I'm looking to raise the back end a little so should I be looking for shorter than standard Suspension linkages?


yup

wow 01-09-08 07:30 PM

Re: Longer dogbones 41mm
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bibio (Post 1611752)

you wont find much of a difference unless you drop the front aswell.

Do you know how much yours is dropped at the front. As maybe can drop it a bit more.

Geoffrey 01-09-08 07:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bibio (Post 1611761)
yup

Thanks for that.

I believe Dangerous Dave recommends no more than 10mm lower on the front forks, he knows his stuff when it comes to SV tuning as he has been doing it since 1999. At least he said something about the forks dropped 10mm when he was talking to my son last week. Hopefully he will be along at some point to confirm.

Bibio 01-09-08 10:26 PM

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yup 12mm max ... for the standard kangaroo's..

Jester666 01-09-08 10:37 PM

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12mm is a bit much. Most people go to 10mm max.

Dangerous Dave 02-09-08 07:17 AM

Re: Longer dogbones 41mm
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Geoffrey (Post 1611805)
I believe Dangerous Dave recommends no more than 10mm lower on the front forks, he knows his stuff when it comes to SV tuning as he has been doing it since 1999. At least he said something about the forks dropped 10mm when he was talking to my son last week. Hopefully he will be along at some point to confirm.

Correct Geoffrey, you are learning well old chap.

10mm is the max and optimum when lowering the entire SV, if you are lowering just the front or jacking up the rear (I know you are not, this is just for reference) you will need to fit new springs and oil to suit your weight. As you are lowering both front and rear the weight distribution will remain virtually standard and no suspension modification/upgrade is required.

trouty 02-09-08 07:33 AM

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hmmm... my curvy seems to sit quite low at the back, wonder if someone's swapped the dogbones? never even thought of it until i read this thread!

wow 02-09-08 10:06 AM

Re: Longer dogbones 41mm
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dangerous Dave (Post 1612101)

10mm is the max and optimum when lowering the entire SV, if you are lowering just the front

Just out of curiosity why would you want to just lower the front?

Dangerous Dave 02-09-08 11:36 AM

Re: Longer dogbones 41mm
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wow (Post 1612225)
Just out of curiosity why would you want to just lower the front?

Quicken up steering, also with a well set up front end it adds a bit more feel. You will need to fit new springs and oil to suit you before you do this.

jennycook 30-10-08 09:04 PM

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Hi
Is anyone able to advise how much lowering front by 10mm (assume forks/yokes only) and using the 40mm drop dog bones wil lower the seat height itself ?? I am considering a new naked sv650, want to not be tottering on my tip toes for a change!
Thanks
Jenny

wow 30-10-08 09:16 PM

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I'm afraid I don't have the answer for you. On top of lowering of the bike you can also get the seat lowered by taking out some of the foam, you can take out quite a bit. Or buy a new lowered seat directly from Suzuki.

After having ridden my bike for 6 months I have also raised the handlebars using bar risers (naked SV) this makes it easier for shorter people and you can touch the floor even better.

jennycook 30-10-08 09:22 PM

Re: Longer dogbones 41mm
 
Thanks WOW, If not too rude a question ;)... what is your height and inside leg ? PM me if you prefer !!! Be good to compare to my own...
I have a test ride set up for the weeke end , but of course this will be standard.
Jenny

wow 30-10-08 09:23 PM

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I'll PM you. :D

Dangerous Dave 30-10-08 09:28 PM

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As long as you lower front and rear together you won't have a real problem with the suspension, problem comes when you lower the front only as you put more weight on the poorly sprung front end.

I would advise on a better cut seat first though.


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