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philbond07 23-09-08 07:39 PM

Remus revolution fixing problem
 
Hi all.

Finally installed a Remus revolution on my K3. The sound is fabulous, though a little loud, even with the baffle still in. Can't imagine that Remus forgot to pack the can :confused:
Hmmm, maybe I'm just too old :smt015

Anyway, I have a problem to fix the exhaust to the rear footpeg bracket.
There seems to be enough play in the silentblock through the hole in the rear footpeg bracket to make the can move about 2cm's from left too right.Thereby it "rotates" over the linkpipe to which it is fixed just with 2 springs. With the oem exhaust this cannot be observed because it is in 1 piece and fixed at 2 other locations. Maybe I have to "fix" the can on the linkpipe by using some exhaust paste or what?

philbond07 23-09-08 07:57 PM

Re: Remus revolution fixing problem
 
What's a bit strange is that I went to listen to the Remus on a K7-bike, and it sounded much quieter. Could it be cause of the cat(s) on the K7? I ordered a linkpipe without any cat :)

rigor 23-09-08 08:00 PM

Re: Remus revolution fixing problem
 
The can shouldn't be able to rotate I wouldn't have though. The bracket should be tight round the can and tight on the footrest hanger. Any chance of a picture of the area where it moves?

And, yes, I would say removing the cat probably would make the can louder :D

Dangerous Dave 24-09-08 07:57 AM

Re: Remus revolution fixing problem
 
It is louder than the OEM, even with the baffle in, and it is a much deeper sound too.

samwilko 24-09-08 10:46 AM

Re: Remus revolution fixing problem
 
I recently fitted a remus revolution to my K6. They dont have a band around the can to hang them, they have a proper small bracket bolted to the can, one of the reasons I chose it, cant stand the straps on aftermarket exhausts.
There should be no twist in it at all mate. It just bolts straight back on where the original one is fixed to the rear footpeg. If that nut is tight it shouldn't move.
The sound is fairly loud but not imposing with the baffle in.

philbond07 24-09-08 11:41 AM

Re: Remus revolution fixing problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by samwilko (Post 1633558)
I recently fitted a remus revolution to my K6. They dont have a band around the can to hang them, they have a proper small bracket bolted to the can, one of the reasons I chose it, cant stand the straps on aftermarket exhausts.
There should be no twist in it at all mate. It just bolts straight back on where the original one is fixed to the rear footpeg. If that nut is tight it shouldn't move.
The sound is fairly loud but not imposing with the baffle in.

Well, I can even put 100kg on the nut and it will still move. In the rubber(nr. 15 in http://alpha-sports.com/spst/2003%20SV650,S/41.htm) is a spacer(nr. 14), the same length of the rubber, so you just bolt against that spacer and thus cannot really tension the rubber. If there is play on the rubber while it sits in the hole of the footrest the can will move :(
I even went to a Suzi shop and compared the diameter of the rubber with that of a new one, there was no difference.
Did you fix the can to the linkpipe with only the springs or also with some special exhaust paste or what?

FG1 24-09-08 11:53 AM

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Are you meaning that the end can pivots at the rear peg mounting point.
If this is the case then there's not a lot you can do if using the standard insert. I personally am not a fan of the spring retainers as they are not "fixed". Is it possible to use an exhaust clamp insted of the springs ???

samwilko 24-09-08 12:39 PM

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I literally removed the nut (16 in the link) put the new end can in place and replaced the nut. I didn t remove or disturb the standard rubber or bolt. the end can is joined to the link pipe just by the two springs.

philbond07 24-09-08 02:53 PM

Re: Remus revolution fixing problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by samwilko (Post 1633676)
I literally removed the nut (16 in the link) put the new end can in place and replaced the nut. I didn t remove or disturb the standard rubber or bolt. the end can is joined to the link pipe just by the two springs.

Why does this happen to me ? :smt090

IanG 24-09-08 04:25 PM

Re: Remus revolution fixing problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by philbond07 (Post 1633043)
I have a problem to fix the exhaust to the rear footpeg bracket.
There seems to be enough play in the silentblock through the hole in the rear footpeg bracket to make the can move about 2cm's from left too right.Thereby it "rotates" over the linkpipe to which it is fixed just with 2 springs.


Mine was like that and had no problem for over 2 years. It did the same when I had the Hi mount bracket fitted.
My titanium Remus Revolution I put the baffle back in, as I thought it was loud enough.

Dangerous Dave 24-09-08 05:17 PM

Re: Remus revolution fixing problem
 
Can you post a picture Phil?

philbond07 24-09-08 07:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by IanG (Post 1633965)
Mine was like that and had no problem for over 2 years. It did the same when I had the Hi mount bracket fitted.
My titanium Remus Revolution I put the baffle back in, as I thought it was loud enough.

Aha, do you mean you could also swing the Remus left to right then? But it didn't give any problems on the long term?
It is a strange sight though if you're on a heavy road and the can starts shaking around :shock:

Samwilko had no problems on his K6. Maybe after 5 years the rubber starts to deteriorate and gets weaker due to the heat of the exhaust.

philbond07 24-09-08 08:00 PM

Re: Remus revolution fixing problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FG1 (Post 1633641)
Are you meaning that the end can pivots at the rear peg mounting point.
If this is the case then there's not a lot you can do if using the standard insert. I personally am not a fan of the spring retainers as they are not "fixed". Is it possible to use an exhaust clamp insted of the springs ???

I have been thinking of fixing the linkpipe to the can with a clamp indeed. If nothing else works out, that's just what I'll do. Need to make some "incisions " in the can the though =P~

philbond07 24-09-08 08:04 PM

Re: Remus revolution fixing problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dangerous Dave (Post 1634025)
Can you post a picture Phil?

I'll try to post one this we, but I doubt there will be much to be seen. You really have to grab the can to feel it swings around.

philbond07 24-09-08 08:13 PM

Re: Remus revolution fixing problem
 
Gentlemen, we're talking about a "Remus revolution" (trapezoidal shape) here don't we?
There is also the (oval) "Remus revolution gp" which also has a removable baffle but which has natively different - ahum - tonal qualities. The first one is ee-certified for the sv. Second is only UK "road-legal" :)

ethariel 24-09-08 10:48 PM

Re: Remus revolution fixing problem
 
I have a Remus Revolution Oval carbon can, bolted straight in iirc.

Dangerous Dave 25-09-08 08:44 AM

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Revolution
http://www.remusexhaustshop.com/imag...ion_Carbon.gif


Revolution GP
http://www.remusexhaustshop.com/imag...ion-GP_Alu.gif


HexaCone
http://www.remusexhaustshop.com/images/Hexacone2007.gif


They all mount the same way, just the outer sleeve is a different shape.

philbond07 25-09-08 09:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dangerous Dave (Post 1634641)
Revolution
They all mount the same way, just the outer sleeve is a different shape.

There is no difference for the physical attachmts, but there sure is for the sound :)

IanG 26-09-08 12:47 AM

Re: Remus revolution fixing problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by philbond07 (Post 1634260)
Aha, do you mean you could also swing the Remus left to right then? But it didn't give any problems on the long term?
It is a strange sight though if you're on a heavy road and the can starts shaking around :shock:

Samwilko had no problems on his K6. Maybe after 5 years the rubber starts to deteriorate and gets weaker due to the heat of the exhaust.

No long term problems as the can didn't shake about, to busy looking forward anyways :D. Hi mount had little more movement as the bracket was mounted further down as you can be from my picture attached, but still it was okay

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...n/PHTO0003.jpg

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...n/PHTO0002.jpg

IanG 26-09-08 12:50 AM

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Wish I still had my SV looking at them pictures :(

yorkie_chris 26-09-08 12:51 AM

Re: Remus revolution fixing problem
 
Have you got ends of strap bolted to either side of bracket. Needs to be on same side, or have I totally misunderstood the problem?

philbond07 26-09-08 10:24 PM

Re: Remus revolution fixing problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris (Post 1635676)
Have you got ends of strap bolted to either side of bracket. Needs to be on same side, or have I totally misunderstood the problem?

Hmmm the Remus attaches kind of like the oem can, and is attached to one side (iner side) of the bracket.

Dangerous Dave 27-09-08 01:37 PM

Re: Remus revolution fixing problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by philbond07 (Post 1634706)
There is no difference for the physical attachmts, but there sure is for the sound :)

Who told you that load of twoddle???

Take a pic so we can see what the problem is, it will help us help you quicker.


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