Smoking toddler
 

this is what we're talking about in the office today:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_east/7845771.stm

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:shock:

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This is one of the comments by the judge is his summing up: -

The judge added that while the offence would normally cross the custody threshold, he did not want to cause her children any further emotional harm by separating them from their mother.




I can't help but think that the best place for these kids is well away from someone like her, or as someone who has no kids am I missing the point.

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seen this on the news last night...WTF???????????

40 weeks suspended for 2 yrs?.....

this woman should be sectioned.....she must be a loony tune...words cannot describe...

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but they were probably low tar;)

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Yes I think you're missing the point. Why should the child have to go through the distress of losing his Mother as well as everything else.?
The Mother appears to be making great efforts to improve her parenting skills. And I'm sure she's be well watched (as far as they are able) the the Social Services

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Has she quit the fags though?

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She doesn't have to, but the kid should probably either give up or buy his own.:mrgreen:

"Remove the kids" the battle cry of the public, but having spoken to more than one social worker the problem is a lack of suitable places to put the kids. It's not a case of removing them and giving them to a loving, responsible family, it's putting them into an over-stressed system without the capacity to home them properly. And that's a decision taken when all else appears to have failed, not a first stop.

Jambo

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Well said

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Child picks up on parents habits. Exactly the reason I quit. I learnt to smoke from picking up my mothers cigarette ends she discarded out the back window.

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y would she have known he smoked... ?

She smokes so the place and her kid will smell of it, he has a habbit of doing it in secret.. Its not right, but I cant help belive that she genuinly might have been so thick as to not put two & two together.... and made 4...?

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Agreed. Besides, picking up a smoking habit would be nothing compared to the harm he'd endure in care.

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Its just wrong....

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Sounds like she is doing everything she can to be a better parent since the incident. You just don't know - interesting comment about the fags though, wonder if we are going to start taking cakes and pizza off fat people who have fat children.

Of course it's abhorrent a child smoking, but she's seemingly learned her lesson and has supervision and sensible enough friends - who taped the incident and reported it!

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I think that's entirely possible.

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...and deep fat fryers!

We should do - there is no excuse for the number of overweight kids I see.

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I cant help thinking that friends might first of all have brought this to the attention of the mother first rather then involve social services. If that failed to stop the problem then notify social services?
I say the above because I´ve had bad experiances with social services and wouldnt trust them to do the right thing with a toilet brush.

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I was going to say this but you beat me to it.

Im not condoning that fact that she allowed this to happen (through ignorance by the sounds of it), but sure her 'friends' could have tried telling her to get her act together first?

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Maybe they did. At least the mother is getting her act together now and trying to improve her parenting skills etc..Whether that will last we don't know but it is still better than the child being seperated from her and being carted from foster home to foster home.

This reminds me of something I read in my local paper. A couple had their newborn baby taken away from them (by social services) 4 years ago because the father was accussed (but never arressted / charged / found guilty) of assaulting his son from a previous marriage. Obviously we dont know the full story but they have been battling for 4 years to get their child back. Yet you hear of cases like baby P where it takes social services ages to get their act together when a child truly is at great risk of harm and death.

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Nobody with a video camera or mobile phone is coming into our house:twisted:

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I'm so glad to hear about advancements in IVF to ensure that people can make their own & not have to provide a loving home to secondhand kids :roll:

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That's ok.



We're all in your loft! :smt019

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6 parenting classes... "considerable effort". :lol:

I think I'll stop there for fear of offending someone.

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Why change the habit of a life time ;););););););):smt040