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Dave20046 24-02-09 03:30 PM
Scottoiler questions
 
Two questions before I bid on one in a few hours.
Easy to fit?
Does it go on your back tyre?

Everyone on the .org swears blind by them, went into a shop today and the guy said you don't need it it's an expensive gimmick for lazy people with slippy back wheels etc etc etc. Well I am lazy and there's been about 7 revisions of the scottoiler so I'm guessing they've perfected the tyre splatter thing. am i right?

fizzwheel 24-02-09 03:37 PM
Re: Scottoiler questions
 
I've never fitted one, but I have watched it being done. Seems like its straight foward enough. Go on the scottoiler website as theres fitting instructions on there. IIRC you need a specific T piece in order to fit it to the SV.

The only time I've had oil on the tyre was when I left the oiler set on prime and then went for a ride. The only time I get oil on the wheel is when the oiler is set to high and oil flings off the chain onto the wheel. But you get this with ordinary chain lube to in my experience. The scottoil is much easier to clean off the rear wheel than normal chain lube is.

I put up with a bit of fling, knowing that if I go on a ride my chain is lubed properly all the time. Also if I go away for a week or so I dont have to worry about spraying my chain with lube and messing about like that.

Also you do maximise the life of your chain so it will pay for itself if you do alot of miles. My GSXR has done nearly 19K now, its still on its original chain and I've never had to touch the adjustment of it.

Its not a fit and forget item though, especially if you ride through winter you'll need to occasionally give the chain a going over with parafin or something like that, and also you'll still need to check the tension as part of your daily / weekly checks. Its not a substitue for regular chain maitenance.

In short, I wont own a bike now without having a scottoiler fitted to it.

STRAMASHER 24-02-09 03:39 PM
Re: Scottoiler questions
 
No, i'm lazy, so I would never ever bother with one!

So not "everyone".:)

Dave20046 24-02-09 03:45 PM
Re: Scottoiler questions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by fizzwheel (Post 1796272)
I've never fitted one, but I have watched it being done. Seems like its straight foward enough. Go on the scottoiler website as theres fitting instructions on there. IIRC you need a specific T piece in order to fit it to the SV.

The only time I've had oil on the tyre was when I left the oiler set on prime and then went for a ride. The only time I get oil on the wheel is when the oiler is set to high and oil flings off the chain onto the wheel. But you get this with ordinary chain lube to in my experience. The scottoil is much easier to clean off the rear wheel than normal chain lube is.

I put up with a bit of fling, knowing that if I go on a ride my chain is lubed properly all the time. Also if I go away for a week or so I dont have to worry about spraying my chain with lube and messing about like that.

Also you do maximise the life of your chain so it will pay for itself if you do alot of miles. My GSXR has done nearly 19K now, its still on its original chain and I've never had to touch the adjustment of it.

Its not a fit and forget item though, especially if you ride through winter you'll need to occasionally give the chain a going over with parafin or something like that, and also you'll still need to check the tension as part of your daily / weekly checks. Its not a substitue for regular chain maitenance.

In short, I wont own a bike now without having a scottoiler fitted to it.
brilliant cheers fizz. Anyone have info on thsi special t piece? Or routing the pipe/where to let it drip?
How much should I be paying for a second hand one? I'm treating the bike to a new chain and sprocks ...probably doesn't need them too urgently at the existing (slightly neglected but looking okayish) chain has only done 8k.

fizzwheel 24-02-09 03:48 PM
Re: Scottoiler questions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave20046 (Post 1796283)
brilliant cheers fizz. Anyone have info on thsi special t piece? Or routing the pipe/where to let it drip?
Scottoiler website has all the info on it, If you do a search theres a few photo threads that will also explain some of the pipe routing.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave20046 (Post 1796283)
How much should I be paying for a second hand one? I'm treating the bike to a new chain and sprocks ...probably doesn't need them too urgently at the existing (slightly neglected but looking okayish) chain has only done 8k.
Not sure but a new one is £70 ish so personally I'd buy a new one that I knew the history of rather than one from ebay that might not work. The after sales service from Scottoiler themselves is very good so I like to buy direct from them and give them some support.

If you dont need new chain and sprockets yet why are you replacing them, if you fit the scottoiler now you'll maximise the life they have left in them and save yourself money.

IMHO.

Sally 24-02-09 04:02 PM
Re: Scottoiler questions
 
I bought a second hand one off here..
£25 quid posted..
Regardless of my bloody messy piping/routing, i just chucked the oil resivoir in my pillion seat, wrapped the piping round my tax disk, and shes working..
Bit messy, but it works..
Did the same, old chain was buggered at 9K miles, replaced chain and sprockets, then bought the scottoiler to help them stay shiny :)

Mike2165 24-02-09 08:51 PM
Re: Scottoiler questions
 
There's a photo on ann old thread here where you can see where I fitted the Scottoiler....don't do what I did once and leave it full on and empty onto the back tyre!! Apart form that it's brilliant, keeps the chain lubed, no fling, easy to use. I took it off the SV when I sold it and put it on my VFR. The 'T' piece is (I believe) free from scottoiler website
http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.p...light=mike2165

Dave20046 24-02-09 08:58 PM
Re: Scottoiler questions
 
Cheers mike, I missed the one I was bidding on but I've inspected my chain and there's probably a fair bit more life in it than I thought so I'm in less of a rush to get a scottoiler. I'll just wait for a good'n to come along.

fizzwheel 24-02-09 09:00 PM
Re: Scottoiler questions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave20046 (Post 1796748)
but I've inspected my chain and there's probably a fair bit more life in it than I thought so I'm in less of a rush to get a scottoiler.
if you buy the scottoiler now you'll get even more life out of that chain than you will without one IMHO...

petevtwin650 24-02-09 09:07 PM
Re: Scottoiler questions
 
If you're going to buy one anyway, might as well get one now.

Biggest problem, IMO ,is that people forget to check the feed pipe(s) regularly and also forget to top up the resevoir when needed.

They are brilliant, but having said that, I got fed up with mine on the Sv and ripped it off. Bit more of a faff now, but at least I know the chain is lubed.

Sally 24-02-09 09:48 PM
Re: Scottoiler questions
 
Think i need to adjust the oiling, its flinging stuff **** all over my rear tyre.. :(

ThEGr33k 24-02-09 09:49 PM
Re: Scottoiler questions
 
I can help fit it on Sunday if you like... :)

fizzwheel 24-02-09 09:50 PM
Re: Scottoiler questions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by saoralba (Post 1796849)
Think i need to adjust the oiling, its flinging stuff **** all over my rear tyre.. :(
Yep sounds like it, its trial and error with the flow rate, but try it between 3 and 4 and see how that gets on.

What I do, is to keep turning it up till the chain is wet and you have some fling on the wheel and then turn it down a tiny bit and thats normally OK then.

Most important is how wet the chain is though as its the washing motion of the oil as its flung through and off the chain that keeps the chain clean.

Dave20046 24-02-09 09:53 PM
Re: Scottoiler questions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThEGr33k (Post 1796852)
I can help fit it on Sunday if you like... :)
Not ordered anything as of yet mate, just checked my bank balance and reevaluated what I needed right now! One for after payday me thinks. I'll let you know when I've got stuff though! For now I think I'll just get my brakes bled and cleaned up...

ThEGr33k 24-02-09 09:56 PM
Re: Scottoiler questions
 
Aye no worries. :)

Worth while investment though tbh...

Dave20046 24-02-09 09:58 PM
Re: Scottoiler questions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThEGr33k (Post 1796886)
Aye no worries. :)

Worth while investment though tbh...
yeah, I chickened out of it last second lowered my bid from £50 to £40 and got outbid by a quid. There'll be others, may aswell use up the rest of my chain lube on this one until I get a new chain.

TheRamJam 24-02-09 10:08 PM
Re: Scottoiler questions
 
I agree with Fiz

Buy a new one from their site. You'll get anyparts you need thrown into the bargain for free as well as 250ml bottle of oil that should do you nearly 3k miles. Yes its nearly £85 sheets but if you buy from elsewhere at £50 then add delivery and the T part piece you'll not be saving much only a couple of bangers.

fizzwheel 24-02-09 10:10 PM
Re: Scottoiler questions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRamJam (Post 1796917)
Yes its nearly £85 sheets
Bet its cheaper than a chain and sprocket kit though :rolleyes:

Dave20046 24-02-09 10:12 PM
Re: Scottoiler questions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by fizzwheel (Post 1796923)
Bet its cheaper than a chain and sprocket kit though :rolleyes:
? the chain and sprocket kit is innevitable though it's going to need doing sooner or later. The scottoiler may end up costing me money, the bikes going in 6 months I'm trying to weigh up if it's cost effective in such a short space of time.

fizzwheel 24-02-09 10:16 PM
Re: Scottoiler questions
 
If you put the oiler on it now, it'll be later rather than sooner...

Like I said my chains done 19K and I've never touched it. Liz had 22K on her OEM chain that had no oiler or chain maintenace for the first few thousand miles of its life. Putting the oiler on it meant we squeezed every last drop of milleage out of the chain.

Dave20046 24-02-09 10:18 PM
Re: Scottoiler questions
 
Yeah I'm going to wait til payday. Cheers fizz

ThEGr33k 25-02-09 11:35 AM
Re: Scottoiler questions
 
Getting rid of the bike in 6 months, why be that? :(

Dave20046 25-02-09 11:38 AM
Re: Scottoiler questions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThEGr33k (Post 1797545)
Getting rid of the bike in 6 months, why be that? :(
Insurance is up for ridiculously priced renewal. If I can afford the insurance I'm trading the bike in for a 650S or a pointy. If I can only just afford the insurance I'll keept the wang....i mean banana*. If I'm loaded I'll get a pointy 650s and keep some aside for replacing fairings when I drop it or for when the FI goes tits up.

AndyBrad 25-02-09 12:16 PM
Re: Scottoiler questions
 
why?

Dave20046 25-02-09 12:19 PM
Re: Scottoiler questions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyBrad (Post 1797591)
why?
why what andy?

Nobbylad 25-02-09 12:24 PM
Re: Scottoiler questions
 
If you're getting rid in 6 months, I wouldn't bother with a Scottoiler, just lube your chain and get the Scottoiler for your next bike.

ThEGr33k 25-02-09 12:28 PM
Re: Scottoiler questions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nobbylad (Post 1797607)
If you're getting rid in 6 months, I wouldn't bother with a Scottoiler, just lube your chain and get the Scottoiler for your next bike.

You can remove a scottoiler... Just dont lose the bung off of the suction hose off the Injector/carbs. heh.

Gwt a Falco, you know it makes no sense :D

Dave20046 25-02-09 12:29 PM
Re: Scottoiler questions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThEGr33k (Post 1797615)
You can remove a scottoiler... Just dont lose the bung off of the suction hose off the Injector/carbs. heh.

Gwt a Falco, you know it makes no sense :D
Sounds like a lot of faffing about

I'll pretend I didn't hear that :p

AndyBrad 25-02-09 12:34 PM
Re: Scottoiler questions
 
yea why are you changing? although i must admit those pointys did look good on the rideout :)

tbh if its deffo going i wouldnt bother with the hassle and flog it.

Sosha 25-02-09 01:18 PM
Re: Scottoiler questions
 
Isn't there an electronic version of the scotoiler - Lubetronic(?) Anyone know if that's any good?

Dave20046 25-02-09 05:45 PM
Re: Scottoiler questions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyBrad (Post 1797624)
yea why are you changing? although i must admit those pointys did look good on the rideout :)

tbh if its deffo going i wouldnt bother with the hassle and flog it.
Yeah I'm pretty certain it will I'll be bored of the bike by then I can't ever see myself keeping a bike for more than a year. The pointys did look nice, as did the curvy 650s's.


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