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hindle8907 27-05-09 09:11 AM
ground anchor installation
 
Does anyone know who to call for a ground anchor to be fitted professionally in the manchester area ....
iv looked around the net and can only find 2 places in the uk that do this and they are no where near manchester .

My land lord said i have to get it done professionally or i cannot have it done

monkey 27-05-09 10:20 AM
Re: ground anchor installation
 
Any old builder should be able to do it. What type is it and how does it fix down?

hindle8907 27-05-09 10:32 AM
Re: ground anchor installation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by teriyakimonkey (Post 1922003)
Any old builder should be able to do it. What type is it and how does it fix down?
i was looking at the YAnchor i need it flush to the ground so its going to be a pritty big hole that needs making and filling
http://www.yanchor.com/Y-max%20901.html

metalmonkey 27-05-09 10:34 AM
Re: ground anchor installation
 
Local handman no? Just look on something like Gumtree. It should could with instuctions on how to fit it.

However why not just fit it yourself and tell him u got someone in? Long as its not a bodge job what would he know?

wyrdness 27-05-09 10:37 AM
Re: ground anchor installation
 
Peak Motorcycle Security (http://www.bikesecure.co.uk) might do it. They're based in Leicester but travelled down to London to fit my ground anchor, which needed to be sunk into concrete.

hindle8907 27-05-09 10:40 AM
Re: ground anchor installation
 
i tried to ring them but the number is not reconised .

monkey 27-05-09 10:46 AM
Re: ground anchor installation
 
Looks like a good anchor. Don't forget it's only as good as the chain you use with it.

It'll need more than a handyman Bluethunder, unless he has a kango that is! The hole that it needs should be the shape of a traffic cone so the whole lot can't be pulled up and out.

hindle8907 27-05-09 10:49 AM
Re: ground anchor installation
 
yeah im getin an almax chain 19mm verry good chains
http://www.almax-security-chains.co....t=More+Details

hindle8907 27-05-09 10:50 AM
Re: ground anchor installation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by wyrdness (Post 1922026)
Peak Motorcycle Security (http://www.bikesecure.co.uk) might do it. They're based in Leicester but travelled down to London to fit my ground anchor, which needed to be sunk into concrete.
do you have a diffrent number for these guys as i cant get hold of them on that number and the contact form is a dead link too

metalmonkey 27-05-09 10:57 AM
Re: ground anchor installation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by teriyakimonkey (Post 1922039)
Looks like a good anchor. Don't forget it's only as good as the chain you use with it.

It'll need more than a handyman Bluethunder, unless he has a kango that is! The hole that it needs should be the shape of a traffic cone so the whole lot can't be pulled up and out.
Yes true dude the size of that thing, mine isn't that big but its very solid. I have a sold secure chain, which is very good. Is it still rough around that area?

hindle8907 27-05-09 11:02 AM
Re: ground anchor installation
 
http://www.almax-security-chains.co.uk/index.asp?pg=19

there is some video clips on there of all the top make chains getin broken through in seconds It amazed me ...... have a look the almax chains look really good

arcdef 27-05-09 11:15 AM
Re: ground anchor installation
 
i wouldn't recommend the Yanchor, you cant fit any decent chains through it and the draining system it claims to have is rubbish, normally it floods with any sort of rain, oh ands its rusting after only 4 months.

Ok my bad, thats alot bigger than mine!

hindle8907 27-05-09 11:20 AM
Re: ground anchor installation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by arcdef (Post 1922079)
i wouldn't recommend the Yanchor, you cant fit any decent chains through it and the draining system it claims to have is rubbish, normally it floods with any sort of rain, oh ands its rusting after only 4 months.

Ok my bad, thats alot bigger than mine!
Its going in a garage and its the Y anchor MAX can take bigger than 19mm+

Alpinestarhero 27-05-09 11:36 AM
Re: ground anchor installation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hindle8907 (Post 1922043)
yeah im getin an almax chain 19mm verry good chains
http://www.almax-security-chains.co....t=More+Details
I have one of those too, big ol' beast and well worth the investment. Unless you only secure the front wheel of the bike, which can be unbolte from the rest of the bike swiftly, elaving you with your ground anchor, your almax and your front wheel

hindle8907 27-05-09 11:40 AM
Re: ground anchor installation
 
lol i would cry so anyways i need to get my anchor fitted who do i call lol im usless at this stuff just ring a builder ? and ask can you fit a ground anchor

Alpinestarhero 27-05-09 11:44 AM
Re: ground anchor installation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hindle8907 (Post 1922115)
lol i would cry so anyways i need to get my anchor fitted who do i call lol im usless at this stuff just ring a builder ? and ask can you fit a ground anchor
yea, just ring a builder or someone who does driveways or something, and say you want a security anchor fitted, you need a big hole made in your garage and the anchor is to be sunk into concrete.

Set out a space in your garage, and make sure you can get the bike close enough to said space so you can put the chain around i.e. the front downpipe (but harder to get off than a wheel!)

hindle8907 27-05-09 12:08 PM
Re: ground anchor installation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpinestarhero (Post 1922125)
yea, just ring a builder or someone who does driveways or something, and say you want a security anchor fitted, you need a big hole made in your garage and the anchor is to be sunk into concrete.

Set out a space in your garage, and make sure you can get the bike close enough to said space so you can put the chain around i.e. the front downpipe (but harder to get off than a wheel!)
can the downpipe not be cut through ?

Alpinestarhero 27-05-09 12:10 PM
Re: ground anchor installation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hindle8907 (Post 1922162)
can the downpipe not be cut through ?
how much noise would have to be made to acheive that ;) you'd be there with a big wacking stick before they got away :D

hindle8907 27-05-09 12:28 PM
Re: ground anchor installation
 
a big axe after last time left me buggered it did

hindle8907 27-05-09 12:32 PM
Re: ground anchor installation
 
is there no space on the frame of a naked SV650 k6 for a 19mm chain ?

Owenski 27-05-09 12:38 PM
Re: ground anchor installation
 
Wouldnt bother buying the y-anchor! Its the concete strength that matters I used drain pipe and steel rods to make mine.

Your never going to get a certificate for the job anyway so why not just get a mate to turn up and pretend to be a 'proper fitter' dig hole insert anchor and fill with concrete. I dont think it could be simpler.

hindle8907 27-05-09 12:42 PM
Re: ground anchor installation
 
i dont know any one with these sort of tools

arcdef 27-05-09 12:45 PM
Re: ground anchor installation
 
all you need is a pick axe and some post mix from B&Q!

Owenski 27-05-09 12:45 PM
Re: ground anchor installation
 
What is the current surface made of?

hindle8907 27-05-09 12:53 PM
Re: ground anchor installation
 
solid concreet its an underground garage

Dave20046 27-05-09 12:58 PM
Re: ground anchor installation
 
I think your combo looks ok (specially to say it's in a garage). You could run the almax through the rear wheel and then branch another chain with a dlock or a cheap cable lock off to go through the frame. Can't think of anywhere on the frame the almax would go through :scratch:

Owenski 27-05-09 01:06 PM
Re: ground anchor installation
 
If its already a concrete surface then, Get to Jewsons/B&Q/Wickes and buy
Sledge Hammer,
Pick Axe,
Shovel,
BIIIGGGG rubber bucket,
1 Bag of Cement (25kg)
3 Bags of Sand (25kg)
2 Bags of Agrigate (25kg)
A length of square Drain Pipe
2 45degree Drain Pipe Bends
Gaffer tape
3 Long Screw Drivers
Saw.

All of the above combined will cost less than the £50 anchor you linked to and it'll do just as good of a job.

In VERY brief the Process is something like:

Break out the existing surface where you want the anchor. and dig a nice hole around 300mm deep and half a metre square.

Cut the Drain pipe into 1x100mm length and then 2 lengths of around 750mm connect each of the longer pieces to 1 end of the shorter pieces making a 'U' shape.

Gaffer tape those seals so that no water/mix weeps into the gaps.

Shovel 1 spade of sand into the hole and make the base level ish.

Find a stone/something heavy and Tape this to the underside of the piping. place the piping in the hole how you want it.

Poor some water into your BBIIIGGG bucket, then the rest of the sand and mix it all together, adding water so that the mix is able to be stirred. Then add the cement and again a little more water. Finally add the aggrigate into the mix constantly stirring.

Pour that into the hole until you reach the top of the horizontal part of the drainpipe.

Then first lay 1 screw driver across the top of that bit of pipe, then the other 2 crossing the each end of the first screw driver making it in to a 'H' shape.

Now pour the remaining concrete into the hole until it is level with the surface.

Cut another small section of drainpipe and use this to run over the surface to make it nice and flat/smooth.

Leave it a day.

Come back and using a Stanley knife slowly cut off the bits of drain pipe which are sticking out of the ground to leave a perfectly smooth finish.

Job Done.

Owenski 27-05-09 01:07 PM
Re: ground anchor installation
 
OR buy your self an oxford steel ground loop, this simply needs bolting to the concrete thats already there.

Dave20046 27-05-09 01:19 PM
Re: ground anchor installation
 
I have a collection of ground anchors for sale, but to be honest I thing the tube in the floor thing's the best idea. Matt's post looks good too.

hindle8907 27-05-09 01:22 PM
Re: ground anchor installation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by leedsmatt7 (Post 1922250)
If its already a concrete surface then, Get to Jewsons/B&Q/Wickes and buy
Sledge Hammer,
Pick Axe,
Shovel,
BIIIGGGG rubber bucket,
1 Bag of Cement (25kg)
3 Bags of Sand (25kg)
2 Bags of Agrigate (25kg)
A length of square Drain Pipe
2 45degree Drain Pipe Bends
Gaffer tape
3 Long Screw Drivers
Saw.

All of the above combined will cost less than the £50 anchor you linked to and it'll do just as good of a job.

In VERY brief the Process is something like:

Break out the existing surface where you want the anchor. and dig a nice hole around 300mm deep and half a metre square.

Cut the Drain pipe into 1x100mm length and then 2 lengths of around 750mm connect each of the longer pieces to 1 end of the shorter pieces making a 'U' shape.

Gaffer tape those seals so that no water/mix weeps into the gaps.

Shovel 1 spade of sand into the hole and make the base level ish.

Find a stone/something heavy and Tape this to the underside of the piping. place the piping in the hole how you want it.

Poor some water into your BBIIIGGG bucket, then the rest of the sand and mix it all together, adding water so that the mix is able to be stirred. Then add the cement and again a little more water. Finally add the aggrigate into the mix constantly stirring.

Pour that into the hole until you reach the top of the horizontal part of the drainpipe.

Then first lay 1 screw driver across the top of that bit of pipe, then the other 2 crossing the each end of the first screw driver making it in to a 'H' shape.

Now pour the remaining concrete into the hole until it is level with the surface.

Cut another small section of drainpipe and use this to run over the surface to make it nice and flat/smooth.

Leave it a day.

Come back and using a Stanley knife slowly cut off the bits of drain pipe which are sticking out of the ground to leave a perfectly smooth finish.

Job Done.
Thanks Lol ...
but honestly i would rather just pay some one to do all that for me and i know im getin it done properly. im usless at DIY i cant even put a shelf up lol

Dave20046 27-05-09 01:25 PM
Re: ground anchor installation
 
pay for matt to do it :D

Local builder/diy/security person should be able to do it. just don't get one with stirrups ....

Owenski 27-05-09 01:52 PM
Re: ground anchor installation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave20046 (Post 1922283)
pay for matt to do it :D

Local builder/diy/security person should be able to do it. just don't get one with stirrups ....
Lol Im a designer not a do'er

I did my own but that doesnt count.

breakz187 27-05-09 02:34 PM
Re: ground anchor installation
 
Dude, just buy one you can anchor bolt to the existing concrete. Rent a hds drill and drill the holes out, wind you anchors in and tadaa, your sorted.

Pointless doing an over kill in someone else's garage at your own expense.

hindle8907 27-05-09 02:41 PM
Re: ground anchor installation
 
it needs to be flush to the ground otherwise im not allowed to do it

breakz187 27-05-09 03:23 PM
Re: ground anchor installation
 
Ahhh, sorry for the bluntness.

yorkie_chris 27-05-09 03:42 PM
Re: ground anchor installation
 
Underground garage, presumably a cast concrete floor? Y'all have fun digging that. It's finger-whitening, sweaty, backbreaking work even with a hydraulic breaker.

Get someone else to do it, maybe a local engineering firm who fits fences, gates etc. They will almost certainly have the tools, but won't be cheap.

metalmonkey 27-05-09 03:45 PM
Re: ground anchor installation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by breakz187 (Post 1922388)
Dude, just buy one you can anchor bolt to the existing concrete. Rent a hds drill and drill the holes out, wind you anchors in and tadaa, your sorted.

Pointless doing an over kill in someone else's garage at your own expense.
Yes that is what I did, cost less than £10 for it my neighbour helped me fit as he has a drill and the correct drill bit. It isn't going anywhere.

breakz187 27-05-09 03:52 PM
Re: ground anchor installation
 
If its that cast concrete stuff just hire a disk cutter with diamond blade. Chop it up into a lattice and knock out with a big a$$ breaker rod (not sure what they are called). Shouldn't be to hard.

Owenski 27-05-09 04:01 PM
Re: ground anchor installation
 
Depends on the thickness and grade of the concrete, a diamond blade will get through anything no trouble. Only problem is if its 300mm thick conc, shouldnt be any more than 150mm maybe 225mm but either way. its doable with a diamond blade.

Bluepete 27-05-09 06:46 PM
Re: ground anchor installation
 
I'd suggest having a chat with the landlord and asking very nicely if you can install a bolt down anchor, there are plenty out there. If it's put close to the wall, it'll be out of the way and the bike will become it's own guard against attack on the actual anchor.

All you would need is a drill and decent bit.

Good luck and if you get permission, give me a shout, I've got the tools needed.

Pete


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