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Sid Squid 27-06-09 04:26 PM

Is your keyboard broken?
 
Do you accidentally put sixteen question or exclamation marks where one is the right amount?

Do you find it impossible to correctly type an ellipsis of a mere three dots and end up with nine or a dozen?

Maybe your keyboard is broken, or perhaps it's just that the repeat rate is set wrong, whatever, help is at hand:

This is a question mark: ?
This: ????????? doesn't mean it's a harder question.

This is an exclamation mark: !
This: !!!!!!!!!!!!!! doesn't mean a greater level of surprise or shock is merited.

This is an ellipsis: ...
This: ............. is meaningless.

HTH

Venom 27-06-09 04:38 PM

Re: Is your keyboard broken?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid Squid (Post 1954973)
Do you accidentally put sixteen question or exclamation marks where one is the right amount?

Do you find it impossible to correctly type an ellipsis of a mere three dots and end up with nine or a dozen?

Maybe your keyboard is broken, or perhaps it's just that the repeat rate is set wrong, whatever, help is at hand:

This is a question mark: ?
This: ????????? doesn't mean it's a harder question.

This is an exclamation mark: !
This: !!!!!!!!!!!!!! doesn't mean a greater level of surprise or shock is merited.

This is an ellipsis: ...
This: ............. is meaningless.

HTH

Okaaaaaaay?



Sorry.

dirtydog 27-06-09 04:59 PM

Re: Is your keyboard broken?
 
What are you talking about?????????????????????????????????????????????




;-)

DarrenSV650S 27-06-09 05:07 PM

Re: Is your keyboard broken?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid Squid (Post 1954973)
Do you accidentally put sixteen question or exclamation marks where one is the right amount?
No, if I do, it is on purpose
Do you find it impossible to correctly type an ellipsis of a mere three dots and end up with nine or a dozen?
No but sometimes I like to put more
Maybe your keyboard is broken, or perhaps it's just that the repeat rate is set wrong, whatever, help is at hand:
My keyboard and repeat rate are fine
This is a question mark: ?
This: ????????? doesn't mean it's a harder question.
Yes it does
This is an exclamation mark: !
This: !!!!!!!!!!!!!! doesn't mean a greater level of surprise or shock is merited.
Yes it does
This is an ellipsis: ...
This: ............. is meaningless.
Not it's not. If it is you're not very smart
HTH

HTH

arcdef 27-06-09 05:11 PM

Re: Is your keyboard broken?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DarrenSV650S (Post 1954990)
Quote:

Originally Posted by [B
Sid Squid[/B]]

Do you accidentally put sixteen question or exclamation marks where one is the right amount?
No, if I do, it is on purpose
Do you find it impossible to correctly type an ellipsis of a mere three dots and end up with nine or a dozen?
No but sometimes I like to put more
Maybe your keyboard is broken, or perhaps it's just that the repeat rate is set wrong, whatever, help is at hand:
My keyboard and repeat rate are fine
This is a question mark: ?
This: ????????? doesn't mean it's a harder question.
Yes it does
This is an exclamation mark: !
This: !!!!!!!!!!!!!! doesn't mean a greater level of surprise or shock is merited.
Yes it does
This is an ellipsis: ...
This: ............. is meaningless.
Not it's not. If it is you're not very smart
HTH

HTH

I concur.

Amplimator 27-06-09 05:15 PM

Re: Is your keyboard broken?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid Squid (Post 1954973)
Do you accidentally put sixteen question or exclamation marks where one is the right amount?

Do you find it impossible to correctly type an ellipsis of a mere three dots and end up with nine or a dozen?

Maybe your keyboard is broken, or perhaps it's just that the repeat rate is set wrong, whatever, help is at hand:

This is a question mark: ?
This: ????????? doesn't mean it's a harder question.

This is an exclamation mark: !
This: !!!!!!!!!!!!!! doesn't mean a greater level of surprise or shock is merited.

This is an ellipsis: ...
This: ............. is meaningless.

HTH


lmfao

that time of the month is it??????????

Venom 27-06-09 05:17 PM

Re: Is your keyboard broken?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DarrenSV650S (Post 1954990)

Quote:

This is an ellipsis: ...
This: ............. is meaningless.
Not it's not. If it is you're not very smart

HTH

I assume that's a typo and it's meant to say "No it's not."?

... not an ellipsis or ............. not meaningless?

And I think Sid Squid is intelligent, more than most people on this forum.

jans1971 27-06-09 05:17 PM

Re: Is your keyboard broken?
 
no

Sid Squid 27-06-09 05:22 PM

Re: Is your keyboard broken?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DarrenSV650S (Post 1954990)
HTH

No it doesn't.

Your command of English and thus your ability to effectively communicate on a written forum are compromised if this understanding is lost.

Think on.

DarrenSV650S 27-06-09 05:32 PM

Re: Is your keyboard broken?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid Squid (Post 1955005)
No it doesn't.

Your command of English and thus your ability to effectively communicate on a written forum are compromised if this understanding is lost.

Think on.

I haven't had any problems communicating on a written forum so far :thumleft: Have you?

Jog on ;)

TSM 27-06-09 05:42 PM

Re: Is your keyboard broken?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DarrenSV650S (Post 1955011)
I haven't had any problems communicating on a written forum so far :thumleft: Have you?

Jog on ;)

lets be arsy here...

... = this is not an ellipsis in html, its just 3 dots, in html

the true ellipsis in html is … then it shows up as ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellipsis

but anyway, we are not being arsey or stuff like you know

which everway hees right, you know it and also hees got more power than you, so shoo

Magnum 27-06-09 05:46 PM

Re: Is your keyboard broken?
 
power?

Venom 27-06-09 05:48 PM

Re: Is your keyboard broken?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Magnum (Post 1955024)
power?

Mod power, I think. but still true for the bikes.

Sid Squid 27-06-09 06:14 PM

Re: Is your keyboard broken?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DarrenSV650S (Post 1955011)
Jog on ;)

Imitation - the sincerest form of flattery.

Anyway, we can disagree all we like, there's a right way and a wrong way to write and use the language, that fact isn't changed by your or my feelings on the subject.

What you choose to do with the electrons flowing from your computer is your business - I'd like to see the nation's abilities improved, (including our little bit of it right here in SV650.org-land), hence my, hopefully, humourous attempt to point the Org's thoughts in that direction.

Correct me if I'm wrong - I'm sure I am - but you seem resistant to this.

Viney 27-06-09 06:19 PM

Re: Is your keyboard broken?
 
????????!!!!!!....... Meanwhile back in reality. :o)

Lozzo 27-06-09 06:26 PM

Re: Is your keyboard broken?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Venom (Post 1955000)
I assume that's a typo and it's meant to say "No it's not."?

... not an ellipsis or ............. not meaningless?

And I think Sid Squid is intelligent, more than most people on this forum.

As a punctuation pedant I agree fully with what Sid Squid is trying to say.

I read the org because the standard of English is far better than that found on forums like Gixerjunkies - where they find it hard to string more than three words together to make a sentence, then can't spell two of those words correctly.

My written English isn't perfect, but I make an effort to ensure my posts are at least marginally readable by the most dimwitted of posters.

Please, can everyone just make an extra effort to use decent punctuation, it's the stuff we were taught in primary school and there's no excuse for not bothering now we're adults.

DarrenSV650S 27-06-09 06:30 PM

Re: Is your keyboard broken?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid Squid (Post 1955044)
Imitation - the sincerest form of flattery.

Anyway, we can disagree all we like, there's a right way and a wrong way to write and use the language, that fact isn't changed by your or my feelings on the subject.

What you choose to do with the electrons flowing from your computer is your business - I'd like to see the nation's abilities improved, (including our little bit of it right here in SV650.org-land), hence my, hopefully, humourous attempt to point the Org's thoughts in that direction.

Correct me if I'm wrong - I'm sure I am - but you seem resistant to this.

Not imitation, correction ;)

Ooooooh you were joking!!!! I didn't get that. You should have put a lol face or somthing :lol:

I thought you were being serious and genuinely annoyed about people not typing in perfect english. Yeh I was being resistant, not because I felt strongly about the subject, but because I thought you did. I was just stirring, didn't mean anything serious :p

But, on a more serious note...........

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid Squid
Location: Norf London

The correct spelling is North :smt011






;)

the_lone_wolf 27-06-09 07:20 PM

Re: Is your keyboard broken?
 
?
!
...

EDIT: It'd be nice if a moderator is going to change a post so much that the point is completely lost they added their name and a reason why at the bottom, or even a fu*king "edited" note so it doesn't look completely meaningless would be great............................................. .................................................. ..............................................

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Sid Squid 27-06-09 07:31 PM

Re: Is your keyboard broken?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DarrenSV650S (Post 1955053)
Not imitation, correction.

Let me think on that for a moment.

No, I don't think so.

Thank you for the spelling lesson, that you missed the attempt at humour there and in the original post tells me far more than the words you wrote. Similarly your barbed comments do nothing but weaken your position - why you want this I can't understand, but please do continue - whatever you wish to write as your retort will clearly be judged the last word as I shall not reply*.

Thus in some small way you will be the winner, congratulations.



*That's a dilemma ain't** it.
** Did you see what I did there? that must be worthy of comment surely.

Bluefish 27-06-09 07:38 PM

Re: Is your keyboard broken?
 
what's an ellipsis ?.

DarrenSV650S 27-06-09 07:44 PM

Re: Is your keyboard broken?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid Squid (Post 1955077)
Thank you for the spelling lesson, that you missed the attempt at humour there and in the original post tells me far more than the words you wrote.

I put a wink after the spelling lesson so you'd realise I was just joking. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid Squid (Post 1955077)
Similarly your barbed comments do nothing but weaken your position - why you want this I can't understand, but please do continue

I didn't intentionaly make any barbed comments :confused:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid Squid (Post 1955077)
whatever you wish to write as your retort will clearly be judged the last word as I shall not reply*.

I'm not in to the whole "last word" thing. Have it if you want. Don't really care
Why won't you reply?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid Squid (Post 1955077)
Thus in some small way you will be the winner, congratulations.

em............ thanks:confused:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid Squid (Post 1955077)
*That's a dilemma ain't** it.
** Did you see what I did there? that must be worthy of comment surely.

and don't call me Shirley

seedy100 27-06-09 08:26 PM

Re: Is your keyboard broken?
 
I have a thought.
I decide that it is worthy of communication
I use language to express the thought
The precision of the expression of my thought is constrained by my ability to use the chosen language.
The expression of my thought is transmitted by me and received by you, the recipient.
The recipient interprets the language; the accuracy of the interpretation is further constrained by their ability to understand the language that I used
They think that they understood what they think that I tried to say.

Now why would I make that process more complex and less likely to succeed by deliberately misusing the chosen language?

Before anyone quotes any of my numerous misuses of language, I did say deliberately, and I can’t spell very well, my command of English is at best mediocre, also I sometimes choose to communicate in gibberish.

I hope that I have expressed my thought clearly in terms that you understood and you comprehend my meaning. If that is so you are now aware of my views and can use that awareness to deduce my likely opinions in relation to Sid Squids original post.

Rog 27-06-09 08:42 PM

Re: Is your keyboard broken?
 
Interesting reading, but I would say that I only half agree with Sid.

Our language continually morphs over the years. Show modern written english to some one from say 200 years ago and they would struggle to understand it, probably going on to claim that it is poorly written. However, punctuation on the whole, will remain constant as it enables our ability to understand the written word in context and meaning. I would profer eats shoots and leaves as a good book to read on this subject.

But and this is were I disagree, punctuation can also be morphic. If the meaning of new punctuation is understood by the general populus and doesnt distract from the meaning of the original text then why shouldn't it become the correct way of doing things ????

;)

_Stretchie_ 27-06-09 11:47 PM

Re: Is your keyboard broken?
 
Mint!!!!

Dat iz well gud of u 2 do dat 4 uz

Dan 28-06-09 12:07 AM

Re: Is your keyboard broken?
 
I'm with Mr Squid here. What on Earth is wrong with just getting it right?

The thing that has most confused me in recent times is the use of multiple commas... for example, when people might say

"I had a great time last night,,,,,, better than last week"

or similar.

This also happens with other punctuation marks, which is equally confusing.

Specialone 28-06-09 12:25 AM

Re: Is your keyboard broken?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DarrenSV650S (Post 1955053)
Not imitation, correction ;)

Ooooooh you were joking!!!! I didn't get that. You should have put a lol face or somthing :lol:

I thought you were being serious and genuinely annoyed about people not typing in perfect english. Yeh I was being resistant, not because I felt strongly about the subject, but because I thought you did. I was just stirring, didn't mean anything serious :p

But, on a more serious note...........

;)

I must admit, i didnt sense it was written in a humourous way, i did think it was a rant... (3 dots as requested).
However, i do agree a little with mr sid in regards to the punctuation / language issue, being as im getting on a bit, i do have some trouble translating some of this new fangled speech.
So class, try harder!

Lozzo 28-06-09 06:00 AM

Re: Is your keyboard broken?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rog (Post 1955122)
But and this is were I disagree, punctuation can also be morphic. If the meaning of new punctuation is understood by the general populus and doesnt distract from the meaning of the original text then why shouldn't it become the correct way of doing things ????

;)


Because it looks sh*t and simply serves to show the immaturity of the person who typed it.

GeneticBubble 28-06-09 07:11 AM

Re: Is your keyboard broken?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan (Post 1955202)
I'm with Mr Squid here. What on Earth is wrong with just getting it right?

The thing that has most confused me in recent times is the use of multiple commas... for example, when people might say

"I had a great time last night,,,,,, better than last week"

or similar.

This also happens with other punctuation marks, which is equally confusing.


Never seen anyone abuse the use of the comma before. :confused:

For me though it really makes no difference if the individual chooses to use one question mark or ten, it doesn't hinder my ability to understand what's written, can be somewhat annoying though...

on a comical note, this,,,,,,,,thread changes nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes:

so get over it :-({|=

Davido 28-06-09 07:19 AM

Re: Is your keyboard broken?
 
This forum has sunk to new levels of tedium.

I'm off to Gixerjunkies to attempt to string three words together.

SoulKiss 28-06-09 08:15 AM

Re: Is your keyboard broken?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Davido (Post 1955229)
This forum has sunk to new levels of tedium.

I'm off to Gixerjunkies to attempt to string three words together.

In your case, best just stick to 2 words :smt082:p

madness 28-06-09 08:19 AM

Re: Is your keyboard broken?
 
I tend to agree with the 'The Squid Man' on this one. I'm certainly not perfect with my puntuation, but I try to make my posts understandable. I find it slightly irritating that some people put in very little effort into making their posts readable.

Samurai Penguin 28-06-09 09:13 AM

Re: Is your keyboard broken?
 
I just assumed some people on the forum have been typing replies on an iPhone whilst riding at 100mph, hence the lack of attention of proper punctuation :)

Spiderman 28-06-09 02:42 PM

Re: Is your keyboard broken?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid Squid (Post 1955077)
Is your keyboard broken?

No but from time to time i let the batteries go flat and end up posting things like this...
Quote:

Originally Posted by Posted Elsewhere by Spiderman (Post 1945640)
would offer to help mate buthae a feelng you my tanding aout nd saying "h so thatwhat that bit does, is it?" isnt rallymuch of ahelp andwill inie get ma a nice lokng snapper stickut out my forehead.

And other times i'm just plain lazy and type words like 'probly' instead of 'probably' cos (see i just did it there instead of because) it makes no vital difference to the meaning of my sentance. Small adjustments like that dont get on my nerves as i agree about the point that the language is dynamic and alsways changing.

Also i'm not at school and dont expect those reading my posts to be judging me on the quality of my spelling/punctuation but rather the wieght of my comments.
Is that really such a bad thing?

Stu 28-06-09 05:44 PM

Re: Is your keyboard broken?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Spiderman (Post 1955392)
No but from time to time i let the batteries go flat and end up posting things like this...


And other times i'm just plain lazy and type words like 'probly' instead of 'probably' cos (see i just did it there instead of because) it makes no vital difference to the meaning of my sentance. Small adjustments like that dont get on my nerves as i agree about the point that the language is dynamic and alsways changing.

Also i'm not at school and dont expect those reading my posts to be judging me on the quality of my spelling/punctuation but rather the wieght of my comments.
Is that really such a bad thing?

Furry muff.

But it becomes a problem when everyone reading a carelessly typed post takes 10 times longer to understand it than the amount of time saved by the poster being careless. :smt102

Lozzo 28-06-09 05:47 PM

Re: Is your keyboard broken?
 
If I can't easily read it then it usually gets ignored. If the poster is a persistent offender then the 'ignore poster' button gets put into use. That may mean I'm ignoring some otherwise decent folk, but it's a trade-off I'm willing to make to stop me from stressing.

wizurd 28-06-09 05:54 PM

Re: Is your keyboard broken?
 
as long as it's readable then personally i don't care how many ? or ! people use. Language evolves all the time. Better keep up :-)

El Saxo 28-06-09 06:08 PM

Re: Is your keyboard broken?
 
It doesn't wind me up so much on an internet forum, I'm not that bothered to be honest and this forum is a lot better than some I've seen.

It DOES bother me though when our call centre staff at work use 'txt spk' to log faults / support requests etc - then i hit the f***ing roof because it makes us look like a bunch of retards to the customers! :evil:

Demonz 28-06-09 06:10 PM

Re: Is your keyboard broken?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lozzo (Post 1955497)
... but it's a trade-off I'm willing to make to stop me from stressing.

I can't beleive these sort of things annoy people so much as to even warrant a thread whinge - or even cause stress.

My view - Think of it as a textual smilie :)

21QUEST 28-06-09 06:44 PM

Re: Is your keyboard broken?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneticBubble (Post 1955228)
Never seen anyone abuse the use of the comma before. :confused:

For me though it really makes no difference if the individual chooses to use one question mark or ten, it doesn't hinder my ability to understand what's written, can be somewhat annoying though...

on a comical note, this,,,,,,,,thread changes nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes:

so get over it :-({|=

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davido (Post 1955229)
This forum has sunk to new levels of tedium.

I'm off to Gixerjunkies to attempt to string three words together.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spiderman (Post 1955392)
No but from time to time i let the batteries go flat and end up posting things like this...


And other times i'm just plain lazy and type words like 'probly' instead of 'probably' cos (see i just did it there instead of because) it makes no vital difference to the meaning of my sentance. Small adjustments like that dont get on my nerves as i agree about the point that the language is dynamic and alsways changing.

Also i'm not at school and dont expect those reading my posts to be judging me on the quality of my spelling/punctuation but rather the wieght of my comments.
Is that really such a bad thing?

Good posts above :thumbsup:

I'm now off to update my 'ignore list' . That should save me reading the guff(arguable ;) ) posted by some.... :p



Ben
ps: All grammatical and punctuation errors contained in the above post were intentional :rolleyes: :D

Lozzo 28-06-09 06:48 PM

Re: Is your keyboard broken?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wizurd (Post 1955502)
as long as it's readable then personally i don't care how many ? or ! people use. Language evolves all the time. Better keep up :-)

It's not evolution of language, it's plain and simple ignorance.


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