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i want to get myself a nice small slim camera, preferably with optical zoom and about 10mp. dont want to spend a fortune as its going to sit in my pocket most of the time so will get a bit bashed up.

any ideas?

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i've just ordered a sony cybershot off of tesco direct 10.1mp 3x optical zoom hasnt arrived yet £65 cheers.

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I noticed jessops have one on special yesterday, 12.5 mp for 65 quid but can't find it on their site.

Even cheaper is this if it doesnt have to be special :-

http://www.jessops.com/online.store/...6442/show.html

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I got the Badgeress a Fujifilm J32 for Christmas . 12.2 mp and a lithium-ion battery , can`t stand products that require AA batteries and such like . It`s a nifty little camera and takes a good piccy .

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Canon make a nice range of P&S cameras. Take your pick.

BTB, don't get too carried away with MP. It is all marketing. Those tiny little lenses don't have a hope of resolving 10MP - it is physics that cannot be cheated and I do not understand well enough to explain properly.

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All the Lens does is concentrate the picture into the correct area , it`s the CCD that actually takes the picture .

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i liked my casio exilim 10mp, 4x optical EX-Z100 me thinks it was, it had a wide angle lense too £90 ASDA, was a good little camera til i lost it :( that was its only downfall it was too compact.

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Optics isn't that simple - I wish it was. You could start by having a look at CoC and how that relates to lenses and pixel size.

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"Ye cannae change the laws of physics" :-D

+1 for Sony Cybershots..... cracking good pics :thumbsup:

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I work in the optical industry making lenses for Thermal Weapons Systems , the lenses are good enough for Digital Cameras .

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You should know better then...

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And I know that the lenses on Digital Cameras are fine for the job .

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Yep they are fine for the job. Just pointing out that P&S lenses (which are often injected moulded plastics) will not resolve the full sensor resolution without bleeding into nearby pixel sites so there is no need to get carried away with MP... while trying to avoid blanket statements.

Anyway... I've had enough of the bitching. I'll come back when everyone is in a better mood.

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I'm happy:D but thanks for stopping by;)

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Yup, if you don't mind the odd axial and lateral chromatic aberration, vignetting, and blurred corners. ;) Or is that due to the sensors warping, with wrong positioning, less sensitive photosites on the corners and misaligned micro-lenses above the IR filter? Jeez I've never thought of that...

:lol:

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I recently bought a Panasonic Lumix for £99 and am very happy with it- has a Leica lens which someone said was good.

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my old camera is a canon powershot a60 which has a massive 2mp and is like a brick. now although its only 2mp it takes cracking pictures.

i was thinking of this:

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Produc...s|14419441.htm

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Blimey..... I paid £239 for my Lumix TZ7 in October. Which model is yours?

Cracking good camera (metal body, 12x Leica zoom lens etc) which I'd recommend to anyone, but not what the OP is looking for.

Mrs Jabba has a 7mp Sony Cybershot which is ace as a P & S camera :thumbsup:

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Brilliant small camera, my dad got one and I almost felt tempted to tell him it was broken and he would need to buy a new one while I disposed of it safely... 8-[ The lack of manual control stopped me from doing it :^o

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And neither does a person that is spending £80 or less on a camera , your average Joe in the street wouldn`t even notice any problems . Buy a decent quality brand camera and you will reduce your chance of any problems . I notice this stuff being spouted about but nobody is actually pointing the finger at any specific camera at the moment , that would be of more help than pointing out any potential problems that MIGHT be there .

Having said that I have always favoured a Digital Camera that has a good set of optics on it , I still use a Sony DSC-F505 with a Carl Zeiss lens and it is a mere 2.7 MP but takes a cracking picture .

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Agreed, but even the best will fail there. Nikon Coolpix compacts are nothing to write home about, and not all Canons are created equally. Panasonic seem to be the most consistent in the small camera market right now.

MP count doesn't matter as much as optical quality, but then again wasn't that what you said in the beginning of the thread? ;)

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Yeah what I was getting at in a roundabout way is that I would be happier with a good lens optically and less electronics if you like . The point I was trying to make is that I always favour a better lens and less "Whizz-Bangery" . A mate of mine boasted that his camera had higher MP count than mine , cost about a third of my camera and the memory was cheaper . I can sit there all day and capture things that happen in an instant and get more natural looking pictures whilst he shakes his to death yelling "hurry up you Bastaaaaaaaaaaaaard" whilst it writes to memory . I have had this camera for 9 years now , it`s beaten and battered on the body , the coating on the lens is still fine and it takes great pictures .

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I must have missed something there. Would someone care to quote the post.

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Here you go :thumbsup:

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:smt046


Cheers
Ben

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wheres all this come from calm down bloody hell it's a thread about a camera for god's sake.

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Yep. I've had a TX55 Lumix for two years and love it. Would recommend it to anyone.

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I buy digital cameras like a woman buys shoes. I'd suggest for something that you carry around for snapshots, try and get something with optical viewfinder and AA batteries.

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FWIW.....;)

If you want a point&squirt to carry round with you, size is important above many other things. There are loads of very decent compacts around now, no need to pay mega-bucks for a cam which will give very nice P&S shots. Also for most purposes a "compact" will be small enough for your average pocket, too small can sometimes be fiddly to hold.

Mp is almost irrelevant for all intents and purposes, it can be argued that anything over about 4Mp will be enough unless you're seriously cropping and printing, and all current contenders will be way over this.

One thing I'd suggest is decide whether you want a wider angle range, many are equivalent to a 35 at the wide end, but some go to 28 equiv, great for landscapes etc.

Check out the recommendeds at Steve's digicams , you can go straight to the "conclusions" page in the reviews to cut a long story short. Also see dpreview

As someone said, all are not made equally, some cameras seem to just work as a package better than others.

Most small cams use proprietary Li-ion batteries now, check the availability of generic batteries and price, I heard one manufacturer changed the battery spec in a follow-up model and there are only genuine OE batteries available at ridiculous prices. You'll want at least one spare battery. I've used £3 internet sourced generic batteries in my Canon and they've been every bit as good as the genuine ones.

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Olympus camera's
http://www.camerabox.co.uk/product1....ProductID=9582

pete

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YMMV, but from personal experience I tend to stay away from the lower range of Olympus' cameras... unless things have changed quite a lot in the last couple of years. The last one I played with coughed out pictures not much better than a Nokia N95 :shock: and yes it had more megapixels, only worse ones ;)

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We have one of the new Sony Cybershot ones. A bit annoying at first for this blonde, but once used to all the buttons, it takes absolutely brilliant shots. It has the facility to take loads of photos all at once and is fantastic for taking pics of bikes on the move :-) Although we had to switch that off as taking 32 pics when you only want one gets a tad annoying after a while, as it goes by how long you press the button for. The quality of pics is marvellous, and I was very impressed with what comes out with rubbish light.