150mph Plymouth.
 

Sorry if this is a Hitler post, I did search it but found nothing.
Looking at the video, I have to agree with the defendant that it looks around 90?

http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/news...l/article.html

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I doesn't look 150mph to me either. Surely they would be able to measure the distance traveled and the time it took?

Still doesn't really excuse the fact that he was on a restricted license but riding a full powered bike.

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Definately not at 150. The speed officer wouldn't have got a reading if the was doing 150

And the lazer and lydar guns have been scientifically proven inaccurate

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Well apparently the jury could not agree so a retrial ordered.

Another of those bogus cases where a simple speeding offence is re-labled dangerous driving.

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Since when was trying to get out of Plymouth as fast as possible an offence?

/coat (mines the one with Kernow on it)

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Video doesn't show much. Doesn't seem like his hammering the brakes to near miss that van though, & given stopping distances, distance from Lazer, amount of other traffic on the road, the fact his folks can afford a lawyer etc.

Was speeding, shouldn't have been, without a license. Fine. Ban. Job done. Or waste some money with another trial. Lawyers need to eat too.

Edit: 2008? 2008? This has been kicking around since back then?

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You can see his brake lights come on, it's only for a couple of seconds at most. If the van in front was doing 70 that means he slowed down by 80mph in 2 seconds?
Also the van is in view in the still with the recorded speed on it so it wasn't recorded further back.

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If that's the video of the speed being recorded then it's a total joke. (Unles the rest of the traffics doing 130.) First dibs on that scooter.

Speeding & unlicensed still apply.


Edit: Another Plymouth herald horror story.... http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/news...l/article.html

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I expect the paper has made up half of the stuff supposedly said by the copper but I would be very suprised if an ex sniper would get so upset about a bike going a little bit faster than the other cars on a motorway.

Can a 600 ninja even do 150mph?

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Agreed shouldn't have been speeding or dicking round when on a restricted licence . IT's restricted for a reason

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I would assume that is the video as if you look next to the article there is the still with the recorded speed and the van just ahead.

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"Oliver Marriott was going so fast when a van pulled into his lane that the policeman who spotted him dropped his speed gun in horror, expecting to see a devastating crash, the prosecution has claimed"

I'd expect to see a devastating crash. Even assumming the van's doing 70 (not 50 going into 70) he's managed to lose 80mph in around what 30m? Measure the distance from the post to the speed deristriction sign & job's a good'un.

Again assumming that's the video of the speed being recorded.


Edit - the moral of the story is: don't illegally derestrict your Bike. He could have still been doing his 90ish and this would all have been over two years ago.

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Actual rather than indicated? Probably - given the runup.


Doesn't look like 150 to me and the brakes aren't on for very long, but remember you can slow down quite quickly from that speed with wind resistance alone.

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but 150mph to 70 in the stopping distance would require moto gp ceramic brakes

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I think his main problem now will be the fact it's widely reported. They will throw the book at him regardless just to save face.

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Or a parachute...

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I just love the sesatonalist journolism (SP?)
What a load of crap! i mean, he hardly broke!

This sotry was in the metro this week as well, and i quote "Like the scene from Top Gun" I mean, what the! Is this the hight of journolism today!

I got done for speeding yesterday by a man, with a gun, along a road i have ridden for 12 years of my commuting life! oh well.

I also thought that Laser guns are inaccurate ona vehicle moving away from the target, hence the mis reading. Gatsos user the Doppler effect.

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Or a tree

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Bull crap is that 150.

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I think they'll let some time go by and then drop the DD charge & all the world will remember is some bike getting clocked at 150.

Care to wager?

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Something else I've just noticed is that the cross-hair is wandering everywhere, I thought it had to pointed at a flat serface to avoid slip effect. If you watch the banner you can see the point that the reading taken from and it looks like it is aimed at his shoulder.

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Correct, but I thought that the machine took a number of readings are compared them (in fractions of a second). If these readings are too different then an error is returned.

Still don't think it was 150 though :cool:

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Narrow angle camera lens. Foreshortens distances a lot, and so makes things appear to travel much more slowly. He's also probably a lot further from the van than it appears and still catching him at the end.
I think he's doing well over 100mph. The van's probably up at 80ish, but look how little distance the car on the left has covered in the time it takes the bike to get alongside it. Assume just 50mph and the bike is still shifting to catch it in that time.

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There's probably some delay from button press to speed display. I would have thought there were too many other vehicles around but I know nothing. The distance travelled is measurable from the post to the NSL sign if anyone was fussed enough - and the slow moving car was behind an L plated scooter of unknown capacity.

No doubt he was speeding. No faith in the speedgun reading though.

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150mph ?? not a chance, maybe 100 but not 150

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Sorry to drag up an old thread, but the results are in!

http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-...ker/13165.html

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He does not admit that anywhere I can see.

He admits holding a restricted licence but I don't see him saying it is not restricted, just the paper have wiki'd a 636 and decided it is 87kW.

Speed gun could have easily hit the retreating top of the rear tyre thus giving a falsely high reading.

And watching the vid, no f*ckin way is that 150mph. He would have had to be on the brakes so much earlier than that.

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I agree, there is no way that is 150mph.

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Looks like the copper is full of sh*t as well. You don't see him dropping the speed gun to witness the "horrible accidental fiery ball of doooooom" on the vid, contrary to his statement.

Maybe because a second reading showing him dropping down to 55 within tens of yards would prove his original reading wrong?

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A few years ago I had "Similar circumstance" and when you go into the operating procedures for a lazer speed measurement device I can see several questionable
issues arising which when contested in court made the video and speed measurement inadmissible as evidence. Its what you pay a decent defence lawyer for and your defence is only as good as your brief
I like the comment about the police officer being ex army marksman,meaning he should know the problem with a moving target and the pannning effect of a lazer

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Never let the facts get in the way of a good story..
From ther article above...

"A MOTORCYCLIST from Cornwall escaped jail yesterday after admitting speeding at 150mph on his Kawasaki sportsbike in Devon.


When in face he did no such thing!

In the same article...

"Initially, Mr Marriot planned to challenge the speeding charge on the grounds the Police's equipment was inaccurate but yesterday (Monday) at Plymouth Crown Court he changed his plea, admitting dangerous driving and having no insurance".

So he didn't admit to travelling at 150mph did he!

Email of complaint going off now!

And that is so, ridiculously, obvioulsy not 150mph. As pointed out he brakes for 1.7 seconds to match the speed of the van.

He was well and truely stitched up.

I'd have fought it all the way.

C

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Agreed maybe he was under advice though, we dont know.

this could even be a massive hate bike ploy... yes I am that cynical

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boooo hiiissssss bloody bikers, mental the lot of em. Speed junkies high on life and risking death they shouldnt be on the road.

oppps wrong forum.

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Clearly not anywhere near 150, and the police were less than entirely praiseworthy.

Surprised? Don't be, this is everyday stuff - so are the police complaints that they don't get sufficient support from the public.

I wonder why?

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Or a van...

I don't remember in the earlier reports that he had no insurance? Yet on the result of the case it says so. More phony story?

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[QUOTE=Elltg;2336182]Or a van...

I don't remember in the earlier reports that he had no insurance? Yet on the result of the case it says so. More phony story?[/QUOTE]

I suspect his insurance would have been for a restricted bike, by riding the unrestricted bike he invalidates his insurance therefore is riding uninsured or thats how I understand it.