Buying with no V5 + Tax?
 

Guys

Bit of advice please.

I was supposed to be picking up my bike on Saturday, but the seller has just realised he has lost the MOT + V5 document. The bike is also currently SORN.

Before we discuss any further I will state that from my point of view I am 100% happy that this guy and bike are genuine. Top geezer, kept me informed all the way and is as stressed about this as I am. Probably even more so actually!

HPI clear and confirmed VIN number matches.

MOT is not a problem, easy to get a reprint.

So the 2 hurdles are Tax and to get the registered owner to my name, to alleviate his responsibility of the bike.

Tax - cant Tax without V5 or the V5 Document Ref Number. He has the SORN reference number but the DLVA wont validate that number becuase its too old.

V5 - obviously he can just get a copy sent but I want to pick up the bike on Saturday and the DVLA state it can take up to 4 weeks!

Now, on the DVLA website:

I read this to the effect that if we both write in to the DLVA informing that he has sold and I have bought, this can effectively replace the process of sending off the V5 slips?

I thought we could both write the letter and send them by recorded delivery at the same time if so...?

If that IS the case, then all we need is the V5 document reference number to Tax the bike. Will the DVLA tell him this information?

Helppppppppp

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I know it when I bought a car and the v5 didnt arrive I filled in a v62 and sent it off with my green slip. The new v5 came back with in 14 days. I did call them up to ask what I could do. Otherwise I believe its 25 quid for a replacement.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...cle/DG_4022404

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Use a v62 at the post office, this allows you to tax it and apply for the v5 at the same time. You still need the MOT cert and insurance details to show the clerk though.

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So, all -I- need to do is do a v62 at the post office, and that will get a new v 5 in my name? No involvement from the seller required?

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I won't have a green slip. All I'll have is my insurance and mot cert - does this make any difference ?

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I think why it takes 4 weeks is you can apply for it and they will write to the previous owner before sending you the new v5. Thus avoiding the 25 quid. On v62 I think you need the green slip. Give them a call.. it didnt take too long to get through

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I really really need to get this bike on saturday otherwise I'll combust spontaneously.

Wahh.

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I recall it cost me money to replace a lost V5.I suspect it will cost you money too.

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Don't care, just need it to be legal and acheivabke within 1 day

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You will not be able to tax the bike without either the new owner green slip or the V5.

Unless guy who owns it now, insures it and taxes it online on DVLA site. Even then you can not ride the bike until the disc comes through, think it takes 5 days.

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Sorry, but why are you posting complete supposition as fact?
I know for a fact that you can ride the bike if it has been taxed you do not need to wait for it to arrive in the post. And other people have said about a V62 form to tax it - I don't know about this, but I don't see the benefit of posting that he will not be able to tax the bike.

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"If you use the electronic vehicle licensing service or tax by post at the end of the month, there’s now an exemption for not displaying a tax disc. This exemption covers the first five working days of the month to allow time for the new disc to arrive in the post. While you are still waiting for your tax disc you will need to display your current tax disc. The exemption only applies if applications are made before the current tax disc or SORN expires."

I quote the DVLA.

However I stand corrected on the V62 issue.....well I never knew that!

Link to V62, just print and take it in:

http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum.../dg_067819.pdf

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The way I read the notes of the v62 form (part F) is that only the current keeper can tax the bike without a v5 present as long as no details have changed and he has an MOT cert + insurance valid.

So as long as he has valid insurance on it still...

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Taken from the V62 form
and
Therefore you will need the current owner to buy the tax disc before he sells it to you, so he will have to have insurance in his name.

see here
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...icle/DG_069680


Edit: beaten to it / yup I agree with you hongman

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Can anyone confirm that the normal process of sending off parts of the V5 can be done via letter to DLVA or by any other means?

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Or perhaps (assuming he has insurance still) he could tax it, and then I could submit a v62 myself saying that I have not received my new V5 in the post (lets pretend the slip I sent off got lost in the post)

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I believe, and it is only a belief, that if the guy you a buying it from writes to the DVLA stating that he lost the V5 but is no longer the registered keeper as of blah de blah date and that he transferred ownership to yourself of address xxx, and you apply for the V5 via necessary form, all bases will be covered.

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Someone's going to need to send in a V62 - doubt you would get away with both of you just sending letters
You're going to really have to trust him because he'll be buying the tax by sending in a V62, so you will have no paperwork (except a receipt + the bike + the keys, which as you say you trust him & have an HPI, should be OK :smt102

Don't think you need to send in a V62 as well as long as he forward the V5 on to you when he gets it or submits it to the DVLA a bike sold.
So you would just fill one in if he does not do this.

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I guess a call to the DVLA in the morning should resolve this once and for all...

Fingers crossed and all...

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best of luck!

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7 hours til they open, not going to be able to get any sleep with this on my mind >.>

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do you have a dvla office mear you, we have one in preston so if it were me i'd go with the owner to the office explain the situation pay tax to them on the spot , obviously you'll both need id ,as well as the mot and insurance but im sure they can sort it there and then

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Well...

Called DVLA and in this situation the best (and legit/proper) procedure would be to:

A) Of course, apply for a new logbook, wait til it comes through and do it the normal way
B) Current Keeper needs to go to local DVLA office with ID, MOT cert and Insurance to get a Tax disc. He can then sell the bike to me without a log book, instead writing to the DVLA informing them of all the details of sale. The new keeper then needs to send a V62 off to get a V5.

So. The seller is still insured on the bike luckily. But he cant get down the local DVLA office.

Can be done, just not sure the time constraints allow this to happen by tomorrow...

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SORTED :D

He managed to get a Tax disc, by asking a family member to go to the DVLA office with his ID. Luckily he still had valid insurance too!

MOT reprint is easy enough.

V5 is being re-ordered, all go!

Cant wait!!

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So what's the bike??? :D

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02 Curvy, as seen here:

http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=153989

I'm purposely going to get lost on the way back, ;)

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Looking good 8)