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Wideboy 20-01-11 03:06 PM

unfit for use act
 
Anyone know anything about it?

I'm basically having to switch my phone on and off everytime I want to receive a text and to use the internet. It's not my phone as my other contact does the same **** and so does both phones when switching sims and I'm sick of it now

I know they will fob me off with some crap that its the phone and not sort it out so I want out of the deal

Specialone 20-01-11 03:25 PM

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Gav, picked up my third Iphone on Monday since august, ive still got exactly the same issue.
For no reason at all, ill have signal, then it will just go 'no service', then will not get service again until i turn it off and reboot it.
The tech guys at apple didnt look at all suprised, 5 mins in the shop, gave me a new one.
He did say though if this one plays up i should maybe change my sim just to eliminate it, so thats next.
My phone at present is not fit for purpose either, so i will watch this thread with interest.

Wideboy 20-01-11 03:31 PM

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Well according to both phones I have a signal and they different phones

Stig 20-01-11 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by specialone (Post 2464948)
Gav, picked up my third Iphone on Monday since august, ive still got exactly the same issue.
For no reason at all, ill have signal, then it will just go 'no service', then will not get service again until i turn it off and reboot it.
The tech guys at apple didnt look at all suprised, 5 mins in the shop, gave me a new one.
He did say though if this one plays up i should maybe change my sim just to eliminate it, so thats next.
My phone at present is not fit for purpose either, so i will watch this thread with interest.

I have the same issue with my phone but it's an HTC not iphone.

Wideboy 20-01-11 04:07 PM

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Mines HTC aswell, my other is a Samsung but does the same

Specialone 20-01-11 04:11 PM

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Another thing i have noticed, when im a poor signal area, even if i dont use my phone, it will be on the red zone of battery life by dinnertime, if im in a good signal area i can use internet, make a load of calls and still have 50% left when i get home.
Im gonna get a cheap sim and keep a crappy phone on me for emergencies.

hindle8907 20-01-11 04:25 PM

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Your battery will die faster if your in a low signal area becuase your raido is working overtime trying to get the best possible signal.

Specialone 20-01-11 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by hindle8907 (Post 2465009)
Your battery will die faster if your in a low signal area becuase your raido is working overtime trying to get the best possible signal.

I appreciate that, still crap though.
I can talk on the phone for an hour and still use less battery.
My previous samsung didnt do it btw, that would easily last 2 days and never lost signal except in darkest wales.

arenalife 20-01-11 04:37 PM

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This is happening so much nowadays, all my friends and I have spates of the phone just not working even though in a good signal area, switch on and off cures it ( all different makes ). I think they have network issues supporting all the new smart phones which want data access and can't keep them all on network so some are booted out.

SoulKiss 20-01-11 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by specialone (Post 2464995)
Another thing i have noticed, when im a poor signal area, even if i dont use my phone, it will be on the red zone of battery life by dinnertime, if im in a good signal area i can use internet, make a load of calls and still have 50% left when i get home.

Thats because if it cant lock onto a signal it will keep trying, usually at a "boosted" power level. Running the radio that hard WILL sap the battery.

hindle8907 20-01-11 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by specialone (Post 2465015)
I appreciate that, still crap though.
I can talk on the phone for an hour and still use less battery.
My previous samsung didnt do it btw, that would easily last 2 days and never lost signal except in darkest wales.

Probably was a 2g device ?? radios not half as power hungry.
Why dont you send your phone up to me and ill let you know if its faulty or not. :)

Specialone 20-01-11 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by hindle8907 (Post 2465026)
Probably was a 2g device ?? radios not half as power hungry.
Why dont you send your phone up to me and ill let you know if its faulty or not. :)

Thanks for the offer :)
Must admit im beginning to think some it may be my sim card, surely 3 exactly the same phones cant be faulty :confused:
My mate next door has the same phone on the same network, he doesnt have any trouble.

irons 20-01-11 08:27 PM

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i think this is all down to the 3g network. Spoke to a guy at o2 and he basically said the network cannot handle the amount of traffic so many smart phones now end up with bad signal. Not sure about other companies but o2 are now limiting the amount you can use 3g for free surfing the internet on your phone to try and cut this issue.

some people may not have any problems but maybe they get lucky in that they dont use the phone to much so dont really notice it dropping signal.

This theory seems to make sense, whenever im in a shopping centre and even at a football match i loose 3g alot (lots of people in the same area using smart phones)

Milky Bar Kid 21-01-11 12:56 AM

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Gav...I think it's just you...

But seriously, I think the suggestion its the networks is probably correct, networks crashing all the time etc etc. They clearly can't handle the volume of traffic from smartphones. Joke considering the amount of money they rip us off for.

Stig 21-01-11 08:08 AM

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Foxy is on the same network as me. She has a bog standard old school phone. When mine shows loss of signal, hers is just fine.

slark01 21-01-11 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by irons (Post 2465143)
i think this is all down to the 3g network. Spoke to a guy at o2 and he basically said the network cannot handle the amount of traffic so many smart phones now end up with bad signal. Not sure about other companies but o2 are now limiting the amount you can use 3g for free surfing the internet on your phone to try and cut this issue.

some people may not have any problems but maybe they get lucky in that they dont use the phone to much so dont really notice it dropping signal.

This theory seems to make sense, whenever im in a shopping centre and even at a football match i loose 3g alot (lots of people in the same area using smart phones)

After speaking to the wife, who works for O2, she has said basically the same. Unfortunately updating the network is not financially viable at the moment due to Telefonica putting the squeeze on O2.

Ste.


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BigBaddad 21-01-11 08:35 AM

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Check the phones reg/rec?

Shellywoozle 21-01-11 09:15 AM

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Wideboy

My HTC is the same but I dont have to turn it off and on to get signal back. It looses signal more time that it has signal and when it picks up a signal it goes into the 'slect network' screen. I have to select manually select the network to get it back on track. But if I am not looking at the phone I do not know when its out of range.

IMHO its useless and absolute rubbish. I can have signal, receive a call and it will go straight to answerphone.

HTS are good if you have wi-fi anf want to use the net, but if you want a phone ...pfffft RUBBISH !!!

And if I turn it off, it takes FOREVER to power down, talking 15mins or so. ???? WTF

-Ralph- 21-01-11 09:22 AM

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My employer has about 3000 phones running Windows mobile, and I haven't met a colleague yet that thinks his is fit for purpose, it wasn't the phone, or the network, it was the operating system. We are all switching over to Android or iPhone when our phones come up for replacement.

Specialone 21-01-11 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by -Ralph- (Post 2465433)
My employer has about 3000 phones running Windows mobile, and I haven't met a colleague yet that thinks his is fit for purpose, it wasn't the phone, or the network, it was the operating system. We are all switching over to Android or iPhone when our phones come up for replacement.

Col, don't expect iPhones to be your companies saviour, they are just as bad if not worse.

Seems to be, the more stuff they have or do, the worse phones they become.

ThEGr33k 21-01-11 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Shellywoozle (Post 2465430)
Wideboy

My HTC is the same but I dont have to turn it off and on to get signal back. It looses signal more time that it has signal and when it picks up a signal it goes into the 'slect network' screen. I have to select manually select the network to get it back on track. But if I am not looking at the phone I do not know when its out of range.

IMHO its useless and absolute rubbish. I can have signal, receive a call and it will go straight to answerphone.

HTS are good if you have wi-fi anf want to use the net, but if you want a phone ...pfffft RUBBISH !!!

And if I turn it off, it takes FOREVER to power down, talking 15mins or so. ???? WTF


The shutdown might be due to a dodgy app. I had this to start with with mine, then did a full factory reset and started again and it shuts down in no time, bit of a **** about I know but if it works great! It might be worth taking out the sim and giving it a good clean. If none of that works, get a replacement, it could be a dodgy item.

These days most signal issues (as already said) are down to the network being far too busy, basically they can handle so many connections, so they kick people off! Its not really the phones fault 99% of the time.

If you have an HTC phone you can go to settings -> Wireless & networks -> mobile networks -> network mode and change it GSM only (2G only), this will make it pick up a signal if there is one there but obviously internet and data will probably not really work, but voice and text will work at least!

(If anyone has any questions about HTC/android phones, feel free to ask me via message, im always happy to try and help!)

Unfortunately like many other data networks mobile ones are over subscribed and under developed so these things happen, and it happens to us who pay the most who want mobile internet!

hindle8907 21-01-11 09:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by -Ralph- (Post 2465433)
My employer has about 3000 phones running Windows mobile, and I haven't met a colleague yet that thinks his is fit for purpose, it wasn't the phone, or the network, it was the operating system. We are all switching over to Android or iPhone when our phones come up for replacement.

I manage a mobile fleet of around 800 users most are windows mobile devices running WM2003 6.0 and 6.1, then the rest are made up of mainly blackberry's and some managers and sales have android and iphones.

The companys netowork is Vodafone, We use the same APN as the public as far as I am ware and calls volumes are quite low for me at the moment regarding network issues everything seems to be quite smooth.

I would say the Windows mobile OS runs really well when it comes to job allocation our ERP system runs fine on the WM devices.

Outlook is fairly stable too working with exchange the odd device drops out of sync every now and again but nothing major.

for use business I like The Windows Mobile OS.

Wideboy 21-01-11 10:08 AM

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I don't have tue same problem as you shell but it does sound like there is something wrong with yours

On the HTC if you hold the power off button it come up with a little start bar menu with power off ect options, if you turn off The mobile network deeley it switches off 3g, it means my weather and email doesn't update in real time but ..........touch wood *hands in pocket*, its working fine so far today. I'm only switching 3g on when I use the internet basically. Phone connects automatically to WiFi when I'm at home

Wideboy 21-01-11 10:13 AM

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Also when I turn on 3g my normal signal plummets to 1 bar where I am currently, so if you can try turning off your 3g

-Ralph- 21-01-11 12:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hindle8907 (Post 2465454)
I manage a mobile fleet of around 800 users most are windows mobile devices running WM2003 6.0 and 6.1, then the rest are made up of mainly blackberry's and some managers and sales have android and iphones.

The companys netowork is Vodafone, We use the same APN as the public as far as I am ware and calls volumes are quite low for me at the moment regarding network issues everything seems to be quite smooth.

I would say the Windows mobile OS runs really well when it comes to job allocation our ERP system runs fine on the WM devices.

Outlook is fairly stable too working with exchange the odd device drops out of sync every now and again but nothing major.

for use business I like The Windows Mobile OS.

We find they are OK for data use, but making phone calls on all of them, and general stability on the 6.1 is a problem. Haven't seen any version 7 ones, because we made the decision to switch all the staff to Android and all the managers and directors to iPhone.

-Ralph- 21-01-11 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by specialone (Post 2465435)
Col, don't expect iPhones to be your companies saviour, they are just as bad if not worse.

Seems to be, the more stuff they have or do, the worse phones they become.

I know mate, but they are only getting changed as and when needed, so eventually I will be given an iPhone, but problems on them may have been resolved or the next version released by the time that happens as my Window mobile one was replaced with a new one under warranty a few months ago. I could always ask for Android model instead if iPhones are still problematic.

Milky Bar Kid 21-01-11 06:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shellywoozle (Post 2465430)
Wideboy

My HTC is the same but I dont have to turn it off and on to get signal back. It looses signal more time that it has signal and when it picks up a signal it goes into the 'slect network' screen. I have to select manually select the network to get it back on track. But if I am not looking at the phone I do not know when its out of range.

IMHO its useless and absolute rubbish. I can have signal, receive a call and it will go straight to answerphone.

HTS are good if you have wi-fi anf want to use the net, but if you want a phone ...pfffft RUBBISH !!!

And if I turn it off, it takes FOREVER to power down, talking 15mins or so. ???? WTF

Shell, obviously something wrong with yours, I don't have any of those issues...


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