the liquid gold thread "PETROL"
 

so talking about petrol prices 1ltr of unleaded by me in the midlands is £1.27 and diesel is £1.32 :( how is this affecting everyone?

my car does pretty sh##ty mpg but i dont really travel long distances so it doesn't really affect me to badly but i am feeling the pinch, £30 of unleaded now goes nowhere? my last £30 got me 110 miles in my car!! WTF!!

if you commute 30+ miles a day this must chop a large part of your salary off before you even start paying ASDA and the likes the obscene prices that food costs now :(

rant here! what is your views?

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its disgusting and i cannot see the fuel strikes happening again like they did before. no-one will do it because people just havent got the money to do it. some people say its so we all go onto green energy efficient cars but if we all just up and changed, we would soon start paying road tax on these "green" cars

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Daimo was ranting before the weekend too!

As I said in his thread, my dads petrol costs are on the up every week, hes paying around 20 quid just to get to work and back, and half of it disappears in the Leeds rush hour jams on the M62.

Even though we love our Landy to pieces, we're going to have to let her go for something less thirsty....but not necessarily smaller.

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i would say just sort the landie out with a LPG conversion, but the rising cost of LPG now is making the conversions take so long to pay for itself, its no wonder so many people are buying new bikes now

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It's unbelievable. I do a 30 mile each way commute to work and with diesel costing 134.9 a litre it's costing me a fortune!

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I looked into LPG but my local LPG specialist quoted me £1800!!

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i've slowed down-drive at 60 on mways when there busy , if empty 55 but thats after a backshift in the early am, come better weather i'm gonna bike it everyday-big difference between 17 quid a week on the bike and 80 odd in the landy.

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not worth the conversion costs, like kwak says its circa 1800 quid, I got more important things I can think of doing with that sort of cash, and apart from anything else....thats half the cost of the car, would you be bothered with converting a ten year old car? Besides, last landy I saw that was converted, it took up the entire boot space, again defeating the object of having a 'do everything car' no room for prams and dogs!

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lpg aint worth it -better off buying a biodiesel processor and making your own diesel.

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Its affecting me a lot and has been for a while. Im on a very tight budget at the moment. Really since it jumped avove a quid a litre it has stopped my pleasure riding and its even now stopped me from commuting on the bike. I'm away on the bike this weekend to Wales, but i have saved up for a couple of months to enable this. As an example. The dya i bought the sv (02.12.00) it cost £10.20 to fill it up, last time i filled it, it was £19.10 of standard UL.

As for the car, it hurts. over £80 to fill up and round town which is most of my driving, thats £340 mile'ish (2.0L '97 S40) Most of my friends live a fair distance from me, and 'popping' to see them has been reduced which is a pain. Ok maybe not all down to fuel, but that combined with my limited funds, doesnt help.

My next car WILL be an oil burner thats for sure. I wont downsize but look for a 2.5L+ diesel. BMW 330cd is what i will seek.

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Cant see anything getting better either.Just look at the turmoil in the oil producing parts of the middle east.Agreed whatever happens they will always need to flog us oil,but I can see the price going up a lot over the next few years.And we have already squandered the oil we had in the north sea to bankroll the last twenty years worth of excess here at home.

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I can still get diesel at home for £1.29 in Lincoln it's £1.33 at the cheapest...

Costs me £45 to fill from empty I get about 400miles to the tank, travelling to Lincoln and back every weekend is taking it's toll on the wallet...

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yea i remember when it was a tenna to fill a bike :) now its £20 :( if you fill up once a week its manageable but if you fill up 3x??

i too have cut out pointless journeys.

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LISTEN PEOPLE, I HAVE THE ANSWER!



























Get yourselves a 125 ;-)

I spend about £9.00 a week on fuel which fills my tank and stretches to 200 miles (with about 10-30 on reserve). It only used to cost £7.50 a tank so 9 is taking the mick! I dare not even contemplate getting a bigger bike atm, I'll have a heart attack the first time I fill up!

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Exactly what a lot of people are feeling Viney. When it starts to affect if you get the bike out or not, its make folk feel damn downhearted. I too remember when I could fill up the SV for a tenner, I don't even know how much it costs these days!
TBH its not even worth pulling them off SORN, purely because of the size of the potholes round here:smt019

We're looking to consider a big diesel, Skoda Octavia, or a new Fabia vRS estate, maybe when Peg finds his millions I'll have my Yeti:cheers: Its rediculous how much more mileage we can get out of them, and indeed the much cheapness of the road tax!

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ere lady....I remember when it cost £3.50 to fill my 125!

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If i rode to work, it would be one and three quarter tanks a week (210 mile ish) that including just the wear and tear on the bike is around £160 a month. Its £150 on the train and i can fall asleep and not die...just end up in Stanmore which i did the other morning!)

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DOn't you mean 3 shillings and 5pence? :mrgreen:

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It used to cost me £3 to fill the scooter back in '98/99. That was 3.5 days worht of fuel...but it was a scooter.

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Petrol/Fuel is the new housing market. Over inflated prices to falsely inflate the economy.

Apparently inflation is up from a level not seen since Nov 08. Pretty much all down to the 20% VAT rise and the rise in fuel duty.

The governments done a good job right?? The figures say so :)

Anyway its vastly short sighted. The cost of fuel goes up, the price of everything goes up. Everything needs to be transported somewhere by lorry/car/boat/plane. As fuel costs rise small businesses fold, people get laid off from big businesses to counter balance the extra cost in fuel.

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Take your pick of anything you want, will likely have more space inside and use less fuel.
4x4s are bloody terrible so IMO pointless if you're not going to actually utilise the 4wd for getting stuck up trees and stuff.

That said I'd have one* if it wasn't for the £3000 insurance. Robbing worthless c**ts. Hope they sh*t hedgehogs.

*A big simple diseasel that you can run on veggie. That isn't going to last long though, already 25p a liter and likely to go up.

Bikes aren't much better, my SV, albeit non standard, uses more juice than my stepdads astra TD. They are worse these days because of all emissions crap and fashion.
They need to go back to making some proper usable 250s and 350s that are just fast enough to use but economical and cheap. Dare I say it but ninja 250 is on right lines. Could do with just being bigger, simpler and less plastic.

As for LPG, what is it now 75p a liter? Used to be 35p or something when people started with it. Of course once you've sunk cost of conversion kit you can't hardly stop using it either.

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You know the new Fabia vRS doesn't have a diesel?

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But if you're anywhere else in the country public transport is a waste of energy to think about.

For me to go to Leeds uni was a 20 min bus, 40 min train, 20 min bus, plus waiting times IF you get there at all 'cos the c*ckweasels only put 2 carriages on.

Or a 35 minute ride, where you may get wet but won't stink or catch AIDs from the seat.

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and the only thing not to go up is our salaries to pay for it all. i havent had a rise in 5 years, nothing, not even a cost of living rise.

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a mate at work has a small haulage business with just one lorry that just transports scrap, he told me last week his diesel bill weekly is £1300!! it does 6 to the gallon!

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Hey, its no bed of roses here. Its a 450-50 min journey on the bike and 1hr 30ish on public transport, 1hr 45 when i move to my actual office. Bus, train, tube, tube, bus

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You do realise you can get up to 380 miles(350 miles should be dead easy) per tankful on that wee bike....right ;)

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I do, but when you are comparing 20 mpg(pegs foot on the pedal:rolleyes:) to a fabia vRS estate at 45mg, both on combined use and petrol....its a much better alternative.....and the yeti does the same mileage....hint hint peggy:mrgreen:

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you forgot climbing out of potholes for using its 4x4 potential, which lets face it, gets used every journey thats made round here!. So having one is a must:D

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As much as I despise the cost of fuel, it really isn't the oil companies fault and I belive we pay them a fair price.

For around 45pence per litre, they spend £££ 10s if not 100s of millions on research to find oil, drill god knows how many holes to find oil in extremely harsh environments,when they finally find it they have to pump it 1000s of meters through the earth where it is then shipped in huge tankers or piped many miles to a refinery in which less than half of it can be turned into petrol, it is then transported many miles on land by tankers to a petrol station who then sell it on to make a profit. I mean i think 45pence is a fair price for a litre of fuel considering he work that has gone into it, i mean we pay around over £1 a litre for cans of fizzy drink which is just sugar and water.

So i cant understand why people moan at the fuel companies and complain when they make a profit, of course they are going to make huge profits they sell a hell of a lot of product and for the amount so i think it is a justified price.

HOWEVER

I am absolutely disgusted by the fact that after all of the above, the government can just slap on 90 pence per litre for doing feck all, in fact they do worse than feck all they give all the money to scourging cnuts that cant be arsed to work rather than repairing the roads.

Re: the liquid gold thread "PETROL"
 

Viney,

We use 330's at work. OK, I don't pay the fuel bill and don't care what mileage itdoes, but we don't get very far! The perfomance available from that engine cannot be used unless you do my job or have a track to play on.

Unless you need it, get the smaller engine and save some cash.

Pete ;)

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Wow. Is your mate considering a job change anytime soon?

not with you?

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See this is what I'm talking about.

We need 250 turbo engines in dead simple and easy to work on commutery type bikes which will do 100mpg when you're careful with it and still shift a bit when you cane then.

Oh yeah with tank the size of a peanut!

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me too, only i had a 100cc, couldn't handle the power of a 125 :rolleyes:

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I'm wondering whether it's cheaper to keep the Fazer to go to work from time to time or just sell it and use the proceeds to keep the car filled up.

ATM seeing how many miles I get to a tank in the car, I've only got four 'blocks' left on the fuel gauge and when I fill up I'll check the trip meter again, have a horrible feeling it won't be much over 300 miles :(

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well the pub im working on has at least 15 x 20l rusty cans of used veg oil any takers,any case if you want a bike and goodish mpg buy a old fireblade,my 929 will easlily do 55mpg if you drive sensibly and keep it under 90(on the track that would be as i never go over 70 on the public highway)

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A never ending peanut at that :p
Seriously, totally agree with Maria about small tank fuel consumption...although judging by the homework we've been doing on cars lately, the cars we been looking at have had some pretty surprising MPGs

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I'm making less of a profit on my expenses now. Mileage rate hasn't changed since 2003!

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I do too :) ....I'm not that fat lol.

I never get under 128 miles to a gallon. Best has been 149 miles to a gallon :eek:. I average about 130-135 miles to a gallon.

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ah ok :-) I'd get more to the gallon I think but my exhaust is more holy than the Pope's Y-fronts :mrgreen: