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Mykey.M 06-03-11 06:13 PM

Wheelies on an SV?
 
has anyone managed to get a good long wheelie from an av. i can get the front up if i slip the clutch when pulling away hard but other than that not alot. do i have to change the sproket sizes and stuff or is it easily dont with a standerd setup?

maviczap 06-03-11 06:15 PM

Re: wheelies!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mykey.M (Post 2496043)
has anyone managed to get a good long wheelie from an av. i can get the front up if i slip the clutch when pulling away hard but other than that not alot. do i have to change the sproket sizes and stuff or is it easily dont with a standerd setup?

Think if you do a search on here, you'll find its not a good idea on an Sv.

Starves the front cylinder of oil, then it goes bang :p

But if you must, bigger rear sprocket

radicalry00 06-03-11 06:29 PM

Re: Wheelies on an SV?
 
Front will clutch up in 1st and 2nd easy and even 3rd but as mentioned I wouldn't do it too often on the SV. I've been known to pull 'em when I get a bit excited though.

yorkie_chris 06-03-11 07:39 PM

Re: Wheelies on an SV?
 
You can do a wheelie all day on an SV if you have the skills

hongman 06-03-11 07:53 PM

Re: Wheelies on an SV?
 
Nekkids seem to be far easier to wheelie than the faired. Slightly different gearing perhaps?

I can get the front up in 1st (wouldn't call it a proper wheelie just yet) but not in second. Just doesn't seem to want to do it, but as Chris says, it's more likely that I just possess the skills.

hongman 06-03-11 07:53 PM

Re: Wheelies on an SV?
 
I thought the oil starvation thing was sorted in 2000+ bikes?

yorkie_chris 06-03-11 07:56 PM

Re: Wheelies on an SV?
 
Maybe maybe not. Davido (???) on here wheelied 2gen for miles at balance point, only went bang when he did it with low oil.
You want to risk your engine?

For a proper wheelie but not a mile long stand up, just pop up, up a few gears, back down it is fine.

hongman 06-03-11 07:58 PM

Re: Wheelies on an SV?
 
Well I can't wheelie long enough for this to be an issue anyway :D

Specialone 06-03-11 08:00 PM

Re: Wheelies on an SV?
 
Also depends on your weight, my pointy I had wouldn't do a power wheelie, didn't have enough to lift my weight even with a little pull back on the bars.

Actually my sprint goes light but no lift, my DRZ on the other hand will power wheelie in first gear.

radicalry00 06-03-11 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by specialone (Post 2496142)
Also depends on your weight, my pointy I had wouldn't do a power wheelie, didn't have enough to lift my weight even with a little pull back on the bars.

Actually my sprint goes light but no lift, my DRZ on the other hand will power wheelie in first gear.

I guarantee the SV would've power wheelied in first if you leant back enough and "snapped" up the bars. Even at 19stone+ it would. Most people just don't feel comfortable shifting their bodyweight so far towards the back of the bike.

yorkie_chris 06-03-11 08:09 PM

Re: Wheelies on an SV?
 
The bike weighs a sight more than even the chunkiest monkey, it's the throttle makes it wheelie. Snap it closed then open again and it will bounce the chassis and bring it up.

Mykey.M 06-03-11 08:27 PM

Re: Wheelies on an SV?
 
ahh ok cheers guys, if im doing about 15mph in 1st then rev it to around 8-9000 rpm dump the clutch and then slip in as it comes up i got get quite far with it.

i have been looking at youtube for it too. someone going a decent speed just stands up and i think he pops the cutch and it just comes striaght up. it says that he is 3rd or 4th gear aswell :/

beabert 06-03-11 08:37 PM

Re: Wheelies on an SV?
 
This guy does it well :D

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Mykey.M 06-03-11 08:52 PM

Re: Wheelies on an SV?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by beabert (Post 2496188)
This guy does it well :D

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yer i want to be able to just pop it up like that with out having to try much :)

Goldy 06-03-11 09:24 PM

Re: Wheelies on an SV?
 
anyone know how he did it so easily? it doesnt even look like he pulled back on the handle bars.....

hongman 06-03-11 09:39 PM

Re: Wheelies on an SV?
 
change of sprockets perhaps.

SVMAT 06-03-11 09:42 PM

Re: Wheelies on an SV?
 
Its just practice. I have pointy s stock gearing with and it will clutch up in 2nd easily. Accelerate hard in second to 30 with **** at back of seat slip clutch n she'l pop right up. Its easier with less fuel for obv reasons. You wont have a problem with oil starvation if you keep it topped up and dont wheelie for miles.

_Stretchie_ 07-03-11 01:05 PM

Re: Wheelies on an SV?
 
Ahhhh, not seen a wheelie thread for a while

; )

hongman 07-03-11 01:07 PM

Re: Wheelies on an SV?
 
Wonder when there will be a stoppie thread :D

Mykey.M 09-03-11 06:38 PM

Re: Wheelies on an SV?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hongman (Post 2496741)
Wonder when there will be a stoppie thread :D


i've been looking at trying them tooo just havnt got the balls. wheelies getting better though :)

Berlin 09-03-11 09:34 PM

Re: Wheelies on an SV?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldy (Post 2496261)
anyone know how he did it so easily? it doesnt even look like he pulled back on the handle bars.....

yes, he's standing on the rear pegs
C

Jayneflakes 09-03-11 11:53 PM

Re: Wheelies on an SV?
 
My Carol used to wheelie our SV when it had clip ons, she was also a bit good at stoppies. However this sort of behaviour gets her told off by me because I do not want to have to buy new wheel bearings, head stock bearings or underwear.

Fitting riser bars to the bike made it a bit of wheelie monster even with a 33BHP restriction and it took a little while to get used to the new position. I love it now and she feels so planted and steady, even when two up and full power ECU is fitted. Wifey is still not allowed to pull wheelies or stoppies though, despite her protests! ;-)

yorkie_chris 10-03-11 12:09 AM

Re: Wheelies on an SV?
 
I think people who quickly damage bearings must just not know how to adjust them properly or something.

Landing a wheelie won't do much different to your wheel bearings as hitting a bump at speed or hitting a ripply bit when braking hard enough to be lifting the rear.

Wheel bearings are cheap, head bearings are a pain in the tits, but I've been kicking the b*llocks out of mine for the 60k+ I've had the bike and it's still on an OE lower race and a 40k mile TWF racing upper one.

Stig 10-03-11 09:13 AM

Re: Wheelies on an SV?
 
Wheelies are fun.

That is all.

_Stretchie_ 10-03-11 10:38 AM

Re: Wheelies on an SV?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stig (Post 2498615)
Wheelies are fun.

That is all.

Who's got the famous AR06 ApeWheelie pic?

Stig 10-03-11 11:08 AM

Re: Wheelies on an SV?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by _Stretchie_ (Post 2498677)
Who's got the famous AR06 ApeWheelie pic?

Well it was Quiff that took the photo. But I have a copy of it somewhere. ;-)

CheGuevara 10-03-11 11:13 AM

Re: Wheelies on an SV?
 
Mine (an S converted to naked, stock gearing and an end-can) would come up in second gear off the throttle without much drama. It's mostly just timing (not suggesting I posses any extraordinary skills). I'm also not the lightest guy (17st), but I am tall so the higher CoG might balance that out some.

The Idle Biker 10-03-11 01:19 PM

Re: Wheelies on an SV?
 
Oh, good question. I've been taking baby steps to try to wheelie my SV pointy, but I'm still not sure how to do it. I've been trundling along in second about 30mph, pulling the clutch in, revving it high but not redlining, then letting the clutch out quickly (but not just dropping it). I'm about 12 stone and I do sit back a bit in the seat. Feels like it's going to wheelie but doesn't. Sure it's lack of technique, so I'm interested to hear tips.

yorkie_chris 10-03-11 01:20 PM

Re: Wheelies on an SV?
 
Accelerate quite hard and blip the clutch

The Idle Biker 10-03-11 01:26 PM

Re: Wheelies on an SV?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris (Post 2498794)
Accelerate quite hard and blip the clutch

OK thanks I will try it this weekend if it's dry. If I come off I'll post the pics;)

hongman 10-03-11 01:43 PM

Re: Wheelies on an SV?
 
I found my issue was not letting the clutch out fast enough for fear of looping it. But really, now I just pull it in and flick it back out.

Webber 10-03-11 01:52 PM

Re: Wheelies on an SV?
 
Possible on 33bhp? Had a it jump up a inch or so when racing from 1st to 2nd quickly but never anything more. Tried bliping the clutch in first but it just lurches forwards a bit. What kind of rpm should i be doing it at? seeing as after 6000 the bike has no punch due to restriction.

svsam 10-03-11 03:35 PM

Re: Wheelies on an SV?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris (Post 2498794)
Accelerate quite hard and blip the clutch

when you say blip the clutch, is it just slip it for a millisecond, or pull it to the bar and off quickly.
i can pop the front wheel up, but not hight enough to balance.

yorkie_chris 10-03-11 04:52 PM

Re: Wheelies on an SV?
 
Enough that the revs go right up and you lose drive, what you're doing is loading the forks up, then pinging the clutch out bounces the forks back up again and that gets the momentum going

Mykey.M 10-03-11 07:08 PM

Re: Wheelies on an SV?
 
thanks for all you help on this. i got pretty good at wheelies in the past week, i found that doing like 15mph then pulling the clutch in and reving it to around 8-9000 rpm and letting the clutch go and slipping it a bit when its up :). gets me quite far and looks good through town :)

i've tried bouncing the bike and cracking the throttle open and it wroks really well in 2nd gear just cant get the balence point right yet :) but ive changed my fork seals on tuesday so ive stopped for a while now :) but


cheers everyone :)

Ceri JC 11-03-11 03:51 PM

Re: Wheelies on an SV?
 
See avatar.

Webber 15-03-11 07:22 PM

Re: Wheelies on an SV?
 
Just wondered if i put a 47t rear sprocket on the back will the standard chain be long enough to take it? If not how big can i go on standard chain? Not to bothered about losing top speed as it will only stop me from getting a ticket for speeding :)

yorkie_chris 15-03-11 09:09 PM

Re: Wheelies on an SV?
 
You won't notice the drop in top speed as it won't hit the limiter in top, what you do notice is it completely does your tits in on the Mway as it's doing a lot more rpm.

You probably won't get a 47 in there.

SVMAT 15-03-11 09:10 PM

Re: Wheelies on an SV?
 
Not sure but obv you can go one down on the front with a similar effect. And then use same chain and sproket is only a tenner.
Also regarding letting clutch out, dont just drop it as some have said, I watched my friend loop de loop his 750 this way.
Adjust the clutch so it bites close to bars so you can still hold lever when its fully engaged. This will give much more control in getting the bike up, and less likely to damage bottom end, clutch components through dumping it harshly.

yorkie_chris 15-03-11 09:13 PM

Re: Wheelies on an SV?
 
No you want it biting far out from bars so you can use 1/2 fingers on it and still have good hold of bars with it fully disengaged.

If you can't hold your clutch with it fully engaged I'm surprised you can ride at all...


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