A very close call
 

Closest I've seen in a long time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=BBl2-OFqRyI

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Bad rider. Bad bad. Basic counter steering needed and every other decent cornering technique needed. New pants needed!

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Lucky guy, Well saved'ish i suppose :pale:

Danny

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Lucky guy.
Simple overcook by the looks of it

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Trying too hard to keep up with his obviously far more talented mates, then he nearly wiped out the guy following as he rejoined his lane - Idiot.

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You can hear him/her shut the throttle as soon as they ran slightly wide. Lucky to keep it shiny side up and lucky not to be person páte

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Knowing it coming was bad, still didn't prepare me. :pale:

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Silly *rse!

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1 life down. How many left? Lucky fool!

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I'm saying nowt, don't want to temp fate:)

Knew he was too close to that inside line for the right hander. Its obvious hes a coasting type rider and this type of riding doesnt suit him. He didnt counter steer.... I mean wtf.

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I'd like to hope I wouldn't make that mistake, but like little old man said - best not to tempt fate.

Personally I think the re-join was much worse...... Don't think I'd have been very happy if I was the other rider.

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i've had a close call like that, but i was angry and venting my anger through riding like a prat. ****s you up, but that was very close

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Typical inconsiderate rider if you ask me, I mean is it really necessary to ride everywhere on full beam.

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Wasnt his turn to go I guess, Gods got other plans for this dude. Nice save on the truck though.


You seen this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA1Tusk_RJU

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The numpties in this thread are the ones that call him for it because we've ALL overcooked it at some time or other.

All of us!

;-)

X

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The guy in this video deserves to be jailed, the road is no place for that kind of riding.

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He did well to avoid, as did the car

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Some of the comments in this thread about what he did wrong are claptrap. If you don't really know what you're talking about - stop typing! But yeah the guy is riding beyond his ability, simples.

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Well if you are going to put in such a dazzling performance------:cool:
And yes,wrong line,too fast,unsettled bike=c0ck up.
And we've all done and hopefully learned from it.

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Agreed, I certainly have over cooked corners for one reason or another.

I have gone in to a set of hairpins and fast bends in France and got slightly out of rhythm and on one left hand corner just fixated and even though I could've easily made it, I just braked hard and locked up the rear before coming to my senses and just taking the corner and not hitting a 6ft high wall.

My point is sometimes it's possible to fixate on something and it affects your ability to make a corner that normally wouldn't be a problem.

In the op, the particular corner wasn't really a fast corner or much tighter than the others he'd just rode, he fixated when he realised he wasn't set up properly and went into panic mode rather than avoidance by just making the corner.

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Old clip that, ride like this on a regular basis and it's when, not if you will end up a ksi statistic.

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Let he/she* who is without a **** up cast the first stone.

Which is not to excuse rubbish riding, in this case it would certainly seem to be over-reaching his abilities, but who amongst us has never properly ****ed up? It's not the error which is the point, solely the consequences, fortunately in this circumstance the only casualty seems to have been his shreddies.


*No prejudice - everyone screws up sooner or later.

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You can almost predict what the 'band wagon' would me spurting in these sorts of threads...usually, a load of Boll*ox :-P

As has been said by a Berlin, Ralph et al , let does who have never made a mistake, raise their pinkies :D .

Even funnier, is readign folks saying "ooh, the way, he rejoined was even worse" . That just proves the point that, many a folk actually do not have a clue...well, atleast appear that way, once they 'get started' .

Did anyone questioning how rider got back onto his side of the road, in an incorrect manner, actually bother to think for a moment, what thought processes mustt have been going on at that moment in time? dDid you notice what was on the left verge(whilst he was on the wrong side of the road)?.

Furthermore, I'd actually call the rider following more of a moron. Why? Go back and watch the video, count the seconds before the rider came past(just as he rejoined right side of teh road) and then perhaps, you'd arrive at a different view....

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OTOH would you really want to stop anywhere near that incident? Considering the chances of the truck swerving perhaps it was better to try and ride past the danger zone. Maybe, I'm not sure.

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When you're following someone, you have the added benefit of being able to see more in your view than the person in front, so, IMO, the following rider could react easier to the rider rejoining his side of the road, than an adrenalin filled, shaking rider who's just narrowly avoided a head on, he wouldn't exactly be thinking straight at that moment, whereas following rider could do something to avoid any collision.

As others have said, we're too quick to criticise.

Why was the rider following a moron? Considering how long the guy videoing this took to rejoin and the speed he was doing the other rider must have been a couple of corners behind so was oblivious to what went on. The main rider went onto the dirty side on the opposite side of the road. He then rejoined just as the last of the traffic passed him so the guy following behind didnt see him blinded by the last of the traffic and had just ridden round the corner where the whole incident happened. The guy who created this should have stayed put at the side of the road and sorted his head out. His eagerness to rejoin and subsequent actions almost causing another incident says it all. If I was the rider behind him I would have knocked his head off at the next rest stop. Not the right reaction, I know.

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Im actually gonna credit the rider for keeping a cool head.
I dont see much wrong with anything he does maybe a slight loss of concentration as his entry line isnt brilliant but after that the guy does fantasticly IMO.
Im suspecting its low adesion which is to blame and here's why:
At 29s he is still tipping in, but everything looks fine, then his front goes a bit loose, this is fractions of a second before the car comes into view
At 30s he's drifting towards the centre line, and seems to drift wide quicker than you'd normally expect,
At 31s he is crossing the yellow lines and there is another black skid mark almost perfectly projecting the line you'd expect him to take from this point of the slide.
At 32s he misses the car by a cat **** hair, and then has fighter pilot composure to miss steer around the truck.
at 33s look in the RH lane just after he passes the truck and there is a continuation of the skid mark seen at 31s this heads stright into the banking.

He isnt the first person to loose control on this corner and I thats why I suspect the surface is largely to blame, and why I say he's done fantastically.

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Both of those videos put my heart in my mouth!

Last time I got it wrong was pulling on to a roundabout, right in front of a black car! It was dark, but he had lights on and I just did not see him, scared the poo out of me that did. Went home and felt lucky to have a bike in one piece. Getting it wrong can be so simple and yet so horribly painful if you are unlucky.

Jane sweet heart, it's meant to be the cars which SMIDSY us not the other way around ;-)

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Let`s face facts .... this happens , we`ve all done something silly and you hope that you learn from it all . I have ridden with Berlin and a quite a few others on here and they have witnessed me having a good day and then all of a sudden I will drop back and retire myself further down the pack . I know when my limits of concentration are being exhausted and I am likely to have an "incident" . You have to push to know where your limits are , then stick to those limits and back off and ride another day .

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I found the same in france, id have 2-3 hours (or a barmy 5 mins as i call it) in the day when i felt on it (by my standards) and focused but as you say i felt that focus going sometimes so just backed off a bit when i didnt feel confident.
I also feel during these times, my chances of an 'incident' are greatly increased.

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They are , I nearly got beheaded by a trailer because I went "off the boil" and didn`t pay attention . Even wrote it up on here a couple of years back .

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"At 32s he misses the car by a cat **** hair, and then has fighter pilot composure to miss steer around the truck.
I say he's done fantastically."
I second that. we all mess up so give him a well done...

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Not on the public road you don't, leastways not into a blind bend where your mistake could involve others. "Accidents" if I could be permitted to use an old fashioned term, don't just happen, they are an obvious consequence to an often chosen course of behaviour and this was a classic example. I know that some motorcyclists like to push it along a bit, myself included, and I'd like to think we all know and accept the risks we are putting ourselves at when we do so, but none of us have the right to include others in that risk. If you want to look for your limits do it somewhere that isn't going to ruin somebody else's life when you find them. Sorry, I know I sound like a right boring fart sometimes but this "didn't he do well" attitude really gets my goat.

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IMHO "didn't he do well" it could have been fatal for himself and the other people involved.
i'm just prasing his skill and his LUCK to pull it off.

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I didn't see to much skill there. Luck, well yeah, I can't deny him that, but you can't praise someone for something they have no control over.

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Agree..............and now he's got 8 left.

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+1

I see nothing but poor riding here.
Bad lines and lean angles, obviously trying to ride beyond his skills to keep up, no evasive action towards the first car, locking the rear wheel, nearly taking out another rider and that's just the highlights!
Lucky idiot.

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Bill you got right Lucky idiot. lol.