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Littlepeahead 29-07-13 09:01 AM

Lads Mags cover up - opinions
 
The Co-op has decided that from 9th September the lads mags such as Nuts, Loaded and Zoo must have 'modesty bags' over the covers or they won't sell them. So what does everyone think. Are they just a bit of harmless fun or do they exploit women?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23486027

My personal view is that they don't bother me that much. The women who pose for them get paid a decent wage to do so.

If anything I am more offended by the women's mags like Now, New and Closer that are obsessed with which celebs have got fatter/thinner/had a nose job/gone on a heartbreak diet and therefore look better for looking like a rake.

daveyrach 29-07-13 09:04 AM

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I think it is a good thing, as I have two teenage sons and two daughters, I believe they give a false reality of what women look like and the wrong impression to girls who believe they need to be super skinny with big ( . )( . ), my daughter is 10 and already thinks she is fat because of the media/mags like these.

maviczap 29-07-13 09:21 AM

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I watched a feminist and a a girl who'd posed for one of the mags being interviewed on the BBC this morning.

The feminist stated the magazines were exploiting the female form by having them on the cover and encouraging exploitation women etc etc. I can't remember the exact phrase she used.

The model had an excellent comeback in that if you took that viewpoint she could object to the naked torso's of men on Men's Health magazine as exploitation of men.

Men have admired beautiful women since Adam & Eve and women have done the same with looking at a good looking bloke, both naked, semi naked and fully clothed.

I know its not a direct parallel, but I don't see a great urgency to remove all the paintings with naked women & men hanging in art galleries because its exploiting their form. Oh no that's because its art, but surely it was the lads mag of the time?

Dave20046 29-07-13 09:28 AM

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Never mind the decoy news stories.
What about our Internet pron?!

Littlepeahead 29-07-13 09:41 AM

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My other bugbear is when watching the sport on TV from places like the Caribbean they show the crowd and it is busty pretty women in small bikinis and then big fat sun burnt beer bellied England supporters. Hardly fair for the girls watching at home.

Oh yeah, poor exploited Hugh Jackman too...

http://forums.sv650.org/picture.php?...pictureid=7153

Mauler 29-07-13 09:44 AM

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I think it's complete nonsense. They're already up and (mostly) out of reach of kids who are supposedly too young to read them, it's the parents' job to educate their children about certain aspects of life rather than those aspects of life be hidden from them. Some people work hard to keep themselves in a presentable form that pleases the eye and if a healthy body is something that needs to be covered up then something's a bit wrong.

Where does it end? Cover up the fitness mags? Those bitchy, bitter 'celeb' mags for ladies with over and underweight people on the front to be scrutinised for the comfort of others? No bikinis on the beach? No underwear or women in showers on TV ads? Mannequins only, is it? It's complete rubbish, it's not like it's porn or really offensive. It smacks of a ploy to get more customers through the door off the back of Cameron's internet crackdown proposition more than anything else.

maviczap 29-07-13 10:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Littlepeahead (Post 2890710)
My other bugbear is when watching the sport on TV from places like the Caribbean they show the crowd and it is busty pretty women in small bikinis and then big fat sun burnt beer bellied England supporters. Hardly fair for the girls watching at home.

Oh yeah, poor exploited Hugh Jackman too...

http://forums.sv650.org/picture.php?...pictureid=7153

Yes, I feel that is explotiting the male form, ban it :nomore:

Or is because I don't have a six pack like his, which makes me feel inferior?

LankyIanB 29-07-13 10:26 AM

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I'm never quite sure who the exploited party is..... those posing for any of these mags or those buying them.....

Jayneflakes 29-07-13 10:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Littlepeahead (Post 2890696)
If anything I am more offended by the women's mags like Now, New and Closer that are obsessed with which celebs have got fatter/thinner/had a nose job/gone on a heartbreak diet and therefore look better for looking like a rake.

I hate those kind of womens mags, I have to be honest I think that they are far more insulting to my intelligence than the sort of Lads mags that guys read. Frankly I find it extremely distasteful that they fill these awful Women's publications up with stories of tragedy, knitting and diets.

I have to be honest, my biggest lament at the moment is the demise of Streetfighters magazine and that was often puerile, always rude and a fab read.

I think that this countries views on pornography is out of date, laws restricting internet porn, rules to cover up magazines, sex shops with blacked out windows... Frankly it is pathetic, maybe with more honesty and a little more openness, society would be a little better off.

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Originally Posted by LankyIanB (Post 2890726)
I'm never quite sure who the exploited party is..... those posing for any of these mags or those buying them.....

Ha haha, you are not wrong! :thumbsup:

Littlepeahead 29-07-13 10:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maviczap (Post 2890725)
Yes, I feel that is explotiting the male form, ban it :nomore:

Or is because I don't have a six pack like his, which makes me feel inferior?

I'd like to tell you that it's all been done in Photoshop and actually he's a bit flabby, but having given him a good squeeze at the match last week I am sorry to confirm that he really is that ripped.

maviczap 29-07-13 10:59 AM

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Yes, you're part of the problem leching after poor old Hugh, exploiting him :)

Dave20046 29-07-13 11:19 AM

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They'll be covering up cigarettes

When did people's personal accountability cease to exist? (Admittedly a different debate)

yorkie_chris 29-07-13 11:54 AM

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I'd love to see the publishers of those magazines go "oh right, sod off then" and I bet there would soon be an about-turn based on lost sales of lager, fags and doritos!

I think it's a bloody travesty that some poncho wearing lesbo-fascists can dictate these things. When they are in no way affected by it since they are in no risk of having children without modern science (or a VAST quantity of sambuca) and in absolutely no risk of being the victims of rape due to looking like the back end of a bedford tipper. How do these wastes of skin find the time to whinge about crap like this? Probably got plenty time to spare since they work in a council office somewhere.

Not like kids couldn't see girls in bikinis or less on a beach or anything either. Think it's turning into saudi bloody arabia.

Now I don't read lads mags, I can get my fill of my depraved side interests on the internet, but if some poncho wearing tw*t goes anywhere near the bacon or spirits sections of the shop I will have no hesitation in kicking them to death.

Grant66 29-07-13 11:58 AM

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In Germany magazines are displayed without restriction (porn is only available in adult shops). Photography mags have naked breasts on the cover as do newspapers.
For the feminist argument to stack up, these images objectify women and turn every man into a potential rapist, then the crime stats in countries that don't have the restrictions must be greater than those that do.

NTECUK 29-07-13 12:44 PM

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Peoples common sense seams to leve them when it comes to looks.
Go out in the real world ,look about.
There are few ideal people walking about .
Thankfully (as i hit a pot hole in shrub end ,unashmedly eyeing a fit girl this morning ).

SvNewbie 29-07-13 12:47 PM

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I find that particular feminist argument to be pretty weak.

Some of the most socially conservative countries in the world have the worst records on treatment of woman.

I suspect the crux of the thing is that feminists also typically align themselves with a particular set of morals and they use the feminist argument to promote those morals.

Mauler 29-07-13 12:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NTECUK (Post 2890780)
Peoples common sense seams to leve them when it comes to looks.
Go out in the real world ,look about.
There are few ideal people walking about .
Thankfully (as i hit a pot hole in shrub end ,unashmedly eyeing a fit girl this morning ).


Haha! Classic! :smt041

NTECUK 29-07-13 01:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mauler (Post 2890791)
Haha! Classic! :smt041

(officer)"why do have you a dark visor ."
(me) "So its not so obvious ......."

TheRuffellator 29-07-13 01:39 PM

Lads Mags cover up - opinions
 
I don't see it as a problem, as a few people have said I think the women's mags are a worse impact on society! I'd love to see the publishers/editors/what have you, say 'fine by us' to the co-op and see what happens, I don't think they'd be banned for very long ;)


Sent by carrier pigeon

maviczap 29-07-13 03:11 PM

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Well by strange coincidence my daughter purchased a copy of Empire magazine, which had a free copy of FHM with it.

There's about 10 pages of pictures of girls in it, all in binkini's, not one bare breast or beaver shot. Disappointed is how I feel now.

Loads of other stuff about Ibiza, cooking, drugs, cycling & Carl Crutchlow, hardly a female demeaning mag

Littlepeahead 29-07-13 04:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maviczap (Post 2890839)
There's about 10 pages of pictures of girls in it, all in binkini's, not one bare breast or beaver shot. Disappointed is how I feel now.

For Beavers you'll be needing a subscription to National Geographic.

http://animals.nationalgeographic.co...ammals/beaver/

You might also be interested in this article...

"Flashier Great Tits Produce Stronger Sperm, Bird Study Shows" I bet the sub editor had great fun thinking up that headline :D

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...s-color-sperm/

ChrisCurvyS 29-07-13 04:46 PM

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I too saw the BBC Breakfast piece this morning - fair that, putting a feminist intellectual up against a glamour model in a debate. It also brought to mind the anecdote about skirt lenthy being linked to economic prosperity.

I think the campaigners are going after easy targets rather than addressing the real problems if they're claiming to be concerned with violence against women - this is just headline-grabbing horsesheet.

maviczap 29-07-13 05:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Littlepeahead (Post 2890856)
For Beavers you'll be needing a subscription to National Geographic.

http://animals.nationalgeographic.co...ammals/beaver/

You might also be interested in this article...

"Flashier Great Tits Produce Stronger Sperm, Bird Study Shows" I bet the sub editor had great fun thinking up that headline :D

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...s-color-sperm/

Ooh beaver pron, my favourite.

Nothing nicer than a wet furry beaver ;)

maviczap 29-07-13 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisCurvyS (Post 2890871)
I too saw the BBC Breakfast piece this morning - fair that, putting a feminist intellectual up against a glamour model in a debate. It also brought to mind the anecdote about skirt lenth being linked to economic prosperity.

I think the campaigners are going after easy targets rather than addressing the real problems if they're claiming to be concerned with violence against women - this is just headline-grabbing horsesheet.

Agreed,

In all those lads mags I've read, its never promoted beating up you girlfriend, or treating her like a doormat and treating her like a sex slave, there's a deeper cause to all that.

Bibio 29-07-13 05:11 PM

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they are filth and all filth is a sin so should be covered up.

Milky Bar Kid 29-07-13 05:52 PM

Lads Mags cover up - opinions
 
Like some have already said, the women's mags saying girls are fat if they are a size 12 are far more damaging than the lads mags!!!

Bibio 29-07-13 06:01 PM

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WTF are women mad. i think they look fugly and ill if under a size 12. gimmie cushion for the pushing any day.

ethariel 29-07-13 06:43 PM

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What's next, the bra section in the bleeding Trafford catalog?

Bluefish 29-07-13 07:18 PM

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They should ban those catalogues, the lingerie section is pure filth.

ClunkintheUK 30-07-13 10:29 AM

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I agree with much of what is said. but would add a couple of points,

One by covering them up they make it taboo and draw the eye to it. I was in a service station smiths the other week and the lads mags were covered up. It made me actually notice them and look at them waiting in the queue to get a drink. Previously never noticed them especially when getting the sunday papers when they were not covered up.

Second, and a point I have never seen anywhere, both types of mags portray the same skinny, blonde, big boob, fake tan is the only attractive female body type, and by extension you must be gay or weird if you don't like it. Yeah, when you are a little more mature its much easier to say, "Give me more cushion for the pushin' " - Bibio, but when you are just starting to figure these things out it is really confusing.

yorkie_chris 30-07-13 10:31 AM

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At least the lasses in lads mags tend to have some decent curvature... a lot of fashion models look like they've been on holiday to Belsen.

ClunkintheUK 30-07-13 10:36 AM

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My other half has the theory that more damaging then the lasses/fashion mags are actually the high street shops. All they advertising in the window show skinny models, and the clothes have an awful fit if you are not a fitting model, even if they are the sort of thing that should look good on normal to cushioned sized people. But I digress.

SvNewbie 30-07-13 10:37 AM

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I wonder whether banning Photoshopping on the cover girls would be a more positive influence. I refuse to believe that everyone of them is completely free of birth-marks, cellulite, spots and freckles.

ClunkintheUK 30-07-13 10:39 AM

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Didn't they manage to photoshop out all of Megan Fox's tattoo for transformers? I did wonder why.

Balky001 30-07-13 11:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SvNewbie (Post 2891087)
I wonder whether banning Photoshopping on the cover girls would be a more positive influence. I refuse to believe that everyone of them is completely free of birth-marks, cellulite, spots and freckles.

Now this I agree with. Real women, warts and all. Of course, if a model did have warts would she be on the front coverher anyway...hmmm, a paradox?

Nothing wrong with a bit of titilation but it shouldn't be forced on people. Of course, you'd be better to read a decent book rather than gawping Carry on style at a bimbo with animal tissue injected in to their lips (she might have a PhD but it must be well hidden in that bikini), making out its the gadget/sports reviews you bought the rag for :^o

Littlepeahead 30-07-13 11:29 AM

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The amount of photoshopping that goes on is a scandal. They could make me look like Angelina Jolie if they spent a bit of time on it, when in fact I look more like a baby orang utang that's had it's body waxed and no sleep and that is on a good day!

http://izismile.com/2012/04/27/celeb...s_25_pics.html

Milky Bar Kid 30-07-13 03:32 PM

Lads Mags cover up - opinions
 
What annoys me is that most of those folk are perfectly pretty, good looking as they are without all of the photoshopping! Ridiculous.

thefallenangel 30-07-13 06:05 PM

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We had this discussion in work. How can women expect equal rights as men when they aren't built or programmed the same as men?

So what if a girl is wearing not a lot on a magazine. If you believe everything in the press, all footballers are £20+ million, the world will blow up tomorrow and we are all overweight.

nikon70 31-07-13 02:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Littlepeahead (Post 2891110)
The amount of photoshopping that goes on is a scandal. They could make me look like Angelina Jolie if they spent a bit of time on it, when in fact I look more like a baby orang utang that's had it's body waxed and no sleep and that is on a good day!

http://izismile.com/2012/04/27/celeb...s_25_pics.html

ARGH - the world is against me!!!!

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madnlooney 31-07-13 04:01 PM

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i guess newspapers that are generally kept on floor level will need to be cellotaped closed too just incase one gets opened


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