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ogden 18-01-14 03:57 PM

Non-BT MotoGP coverage
 
Dorna have opened up subscriptions for the 2014 season on the MotoGP web site, so if you want to watch the season, and don't have (or don't want) BT Sport, and you're prepared to pay €99/£83 for the season (just under a fiver per race weekend), the subscription site is here:

https://secure.motogp.com/en/Subscri...014_FullSeason

Commentators are likely to be Emmett and Harris as usual, so no more Charlie Cox, and no more Ryder/Moody tag-team tedium. Everyone's a winner baby, that's no lie.

rapidgaz 18-01-14 06:53 PM

Non-BT MotoGP coverage
 
How much is bt subscription.


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Nutsinatin 18-01-14 06:57 PM

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£12 a month for a year minimum. So £144 pretty much.

muzikill 18-01-14 07:02 PM

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Double the price

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littleoldman2 18-01-14 08:28 PM

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£83 a lot of petrol to ride the bike so think I'll give that a miss.

Nutsinatin 18-01-14 08:31 PM

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There are free live streams anyway, not that I would be advocating that!

littleoldman2 18-01-14 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Nutsinatin (Post 2929452)
There are free live streams anyway, not that I would be advocating that!

well without advocating it why not put a link up:D

Nutsinatin 18-01-14 08:45 PM

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Something like this? http://cricfree.tv/bt-sport-1.php I couldn't possibly recommend it!

timwilky 18-01-14 10:30 PM

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BT sport comes bundled with my VirginMedia subscription One of the few reasons to keep paying.

ogden 19-01-14 02:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rapidgaz (Post 2929440)
How much is bt subscription.

If you have Sky, £15/month extra. If you have Virgin cable or BT Vision, nothing. Otherwise you either need to get Sky and party, or sign up for a 12 month BT Broadband contract and all that entails.

In comparison, 83 quid ain't so bad.

ogden 19-01-14 02:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by littleoldman2 (Post 2929451)
£83 a lot of petrol to ride the bike so think I'll give that a miss.

Thanks for your insightful contribution.

The Basket 19-01-14 09:22 AM

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That is live.
what about highlights?
Show race again next day?

ogden 19-01-14 10:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Basket (Post 2929572)
That is live.
what about highlights?
Show race again next day?

Same answer. There will be no coverage, live or otherwise, on BBC or Eurosport. It's BT Sport or motogp.com.

Berlin 19-01-14 08:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by littleoldman2 (Post 2929451)
£83 a lot of petrol to ride the bike so think I'll give that a miss.

I think there are a whole lot more out there saying the same thing! Especially if that petrol is used to ride to a bikers pub that is screening it anyway! ;-)

rapidgaz 19-01-14 08:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Berlin (Post 2929751)
I think there are a whole lot more out there saying the same thing! Especially if that petrol is used to ride to a bikers pub that is screening it anyway! ;-)


No that sounds like a good idea.


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ogden 19-01-14 09:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Berlin (Post 2929751)
I think there are a whole lot more out there saying the same thing! Especially if that petrol is used to ride to a bikers pub that is screening it anyway! ;-)

To put the figure in context, £83 is for the whole season, so you'd have £4.60 to spend on 3.5 litres of fuel each race weekend. That gives you 30 miles or so, in total, to get to the pub and back. Twice, if you want to watch qualifying as well.

So if there's a biker pub within 8 miles of where you live, which you know will be showing MotoGP, and is open at 9am, or 2am for the flyaway rounds in the far east, and you don't mind riding or driving there in whatever weather mother nature throws at you that weekend, and you don't have something else on that weekend which stops you watching the event live, then you're sorted.

For the rest of us, £83 may not look like such a bad deal.

21QUEST 19-01-14 09:05 PM

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For what you are get, £83 is a bargain...a 'steal' even...

squirrel_hunter 19-01-14 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ogden (Post 2929762)
For the rest of us, £83 may not look like such a bad deal.

But on top of everything else that I pay for I'm not so sure.

For me that is a lot of money considering I had it for free for the last 15 or so years. I started watching MotoGP back in the 500cc days when it was shown on Channel 5 and then when it moved to the BBC. I have Sky here and have been enjoying the fuller coverage on Eurosport that I get included in my package. But for the main race I've always gone for the BBC which is paid for in my TV Licence.

So the basic question is what more am I getting for my £83 that I wasn't getting from the BBC?

ogden 19-01-14 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by squirrel_hunter (Post 2929816)
So the basic question is what more am I getting for my £83 that I wasn't getting from the BBC?

No, the basic question is what more are you getting for your £83 than you'd get from the BBC next year. And the answer is "any MotoGP coverage whatsoever". Comparing against years gone by is pointless because the situation has changed.

You have three choices: Pay BT (whether directly, for a broadband package, or indirectly via Virgin), pay Dorna (via motogp.com), or don't watch the races. If you don't like those options, complain to Dorna. They're the ones who decided to sell the UK rights to a subscription-only provider. BBC, Channel 5 and Eurosport (who are also a subscription-only provider, remember) are irrelevant as of last November.

squirrel_hunter 19-01-14 11:35 PM

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There is a 4th option as has been previously suggested, that of some sort of streaming site. Excluding the legal and or moral questions however.

Yes the BBC will no longer have it but the question remains valid. I previously paid for the coverage via the licence fee and in the grand scheme of things, that would have been a very small amount. But lets call it £1. Now I am being asked to pay 83 times more than I did before. I'm just wondering if the coverage will be 83 times better?

If its not better and I would guess its going to be about the same I'm left questioning the value of it.

PyroUK 20-01-14 06:15 AM

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£83 gives the benefit of being able to watch it live on any phone/tablet/pc/laptop that is capable at any location that has Internet.

Plus you get the full race weekend and all the additional bonus mid season stuff as well.

I'm considering the £83 as I won't always be able to make it to a mates to watch the races.

flymo 20-01-14 09:04 AM

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If you subscribe to BT Broadband you get it thrown in for free. This is clearly the strategy, as it undoubtedly was for Sky also, to attract customers to their wider services.

PyroUK 20-01-14 09:29 AM

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I need to call virgin to see how much it will cost to get XL tv package added to my current lot. It will prob still be more than the £83 dorna are asking. But then I don't need to pay it up front.

squirrel_hunter 20-01-14 10:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PyroUK (Post 2929835)
£83 gives the benefit of being able to watch it live on any phone/tablet/pc/laptop that is capable at any location that has Internet.

But not my TV? Also do I have to watch it Live? Often I'm out when the races are on so would tape them on the Sky+ box to watch them later.

Quote:

Originally Posted by flymo (Post 2929848)
If you subscribe to BT Broadband you get it thrown in for free. This is clearly the strategy, as it undoubtedly was for Sky also, to attract customers to their wider services.

Yep I understand their strategy, but having seen what they offer from the rest of the service, I would prefer to stay with Sky.

Additionally, I can't go to Virgin. I've checked and they do not offer the service in my area.

PyroUK 20-01-14 11:01 AM

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SH, guess it would depend on your set up. If you have a pc/laptop capable of connecting to your tv then yes.

In my case I hook my mac up to the tv via hdmi for watching stuff so if I don't go with the upgrade that's how I will do it via the website.

In terms of having to watch live, I'm not sure if they only do streams. I have never done it through the website before. They may do a live stream plus a download or watch later option too?

Hopefully someone else has used the service before and can shed some light on that aspect.


To be honest, I would not expect BT sports to be free to anyone soon. Considering the amount of cash they have haemorrhaged to acquire the rights to that many sports and the amount of customers getting it "free", they will have to reconsider this proposition or risk going bust. Unless they have a stupid amount of ads.

squirrel_hunter 20-01-14 11:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PyroUK (Post 2929865)
To be honest, I would not expect BT sports to be free to anyone soon. Considering the amount of cash they have haemorrhaged to acquire the rights to that many sports and the amount of customers getting it "free", they will have to reconsider this proposition or risk going bust. Unless they have a stupid amount of ads.

And that's a good point. If their spend does not attract the volume of customers they need then how will the cover their costs and get to profit. I would hate to move to them on a price one year that changes drastically in an upwardly direction the next.

Additionally for the money I could be spending through either BT or Dorna I would expect it to be totally advertisement free. Though I doubt that would happen...

PyroUK 20-01-14 11:14 AM

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Very good point SH, for £83 fora direct subscription to dorna I would be irked to have any ads. Unless they were for shiny motorbikes and accessories. But anything else would be annoying.

Plan b, got any mates with the relevant subscriptions you could gatecrash to watch the races?

ogden 20-01-14 04:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PyroUK (Post 2929865)
In terms of having to watch live, I'm not sure if they only do streams. I have never done it through the website before. They may do a live stream plus a download or watch later option too?

Yes, it includes a full video on demand service. Go and have a look at the web site.

Someone mentioned paying in advance. You don't have to, they also offer one month and one weekend options, but the annual pass is significantly cheaper in the long run.

I fully expect BT to jack up their process in years to come. They're using it as a carrot at the moment to get people to sign up for BT Broadband. Every dealer offers a first hit free.

rapidgaz 22-01-14 09:51 AM

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Nice one if your on xl virgin. Just asked the other half and we is on that very package. :)
So no extra for me.

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atassiedevil 22-01-14 10:50 AM

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Might take a look and see which satellites/channels/providers will be carrying these feeds going forwards, seeing as i have a motorised system (already watch F1 for free, and i'd be interested in MotoGP this year too, looks like it could be a good year)

Apparently up to 30 channels receivable from the uk with a motorised system could be broadcasting this.

Often you can find the HD broadcast feeds which are open and at a much higher bitrate, which means better quality. Audio is always in english too.

I'll report what i find.

veenee 23-01-14 10:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rapidgaz (Post 2930321)
Nice one if your on xl virgin. Just asked the other half and we is on that very package. :)
So no extra for me.

sent from me internet

I am not on XL (as TV is not exactly my thing) so would have pay extra £15 to get it.

http://my.virginmedia.com/customer-n...ticles/btsport

No way. My internet is fast enough to get it free in good quality :-)

mep 23-01-14 01:51 PM

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I have now decided to get the annual video pass from Dorna for £83 (99.99 Euros). This will be split between me and our eldest so it works out ok averaged out over the season. It will be different to watching it on Eurosport as it's all through the laptop and only one laptop can log on at any one time. I'm sure we'll get used to it.

ogden 08-03-14 09:43 PM

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Looks like there's another (non-live) option - http://f1broadcasting.wordpress.com/...gp-highlights/

squirrel_hunter 08-03-14 09:50 PM

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That looks very promising, thanks for the info.

PyroUK 08-03-14 09:50 PM

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Great, itv suck :-/

Matt-EUC 08-03-14 10:44 PM

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I think we'll all just have to bite the bullet and get btsport. With any luck another better company will see the revenue it dragged in and take it from them!!

PyroUK 08-03-14 11:15 PM

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With any luck btsport will go bankrupt and it will go back to bbc!

muzikill 08-03-14 11:50 PM

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Bankrupt .... no .... but the number crunchers will count up the viewers and also any drop in uk merchandise revenue. Clauses in contracts will come into force. The itv4 is one of them no doubt and there will be more.
Home series racing will flourish.

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NTECUK 09-03-14 06:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt-EUC (Post 2940054)
I think we'll all just have to bite the bullet and get btsport. With any luck another better company will see the revenue it dragged in and take it from them!!

Or use some you know that has BT BB and log in. ;)

Spank86 09-03-14 07:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PyroUK (Post 2940067)
With any luck btsport will go bankrupt and it will go back to bbc!

no chance.

Not in the near future, unless it actively loses money.

The idea is to get you to buy as many products from the same company as possible so that it's more hassle to move. Plus, if you buy Sky TV why would you not have everything from them? That's a customer drain so BT Tv is worth it to the company just in customer retention terms.


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