4K service for £200?
 

Anyone suggest a good place for a 4k service bromley/croydon area? My local place quoted me around £200!!!!! Also what should I check for afterwards to make sure they have done all required? They also quoted me £100 for a scottoiler fitted.....which seemed reasonable.....anyone know different?

Name of the place that quoted £200?

Premier Motorcycles in west wickham....seem nice enough but a bit rich me thinks......

Certainly is a bit rich since they charged me £120.

£100 for a scottoiler fitted would mean £30 for the fitting. I suppose thats not unreasonable, although I dont think you really need to pay someone to do it, it isnt that hard.

I got quoted £170... £200 is takin' the p155 :!: :evil:

Do it y'self mate :wink:

padgetts in batley said about £160 for a scottoiler fitted, hence i dont have one, when it gets a bit warmer i think i'll do it myself....................whats the worse that can happen? :roll:

For your information a 4k service is only an oil change even the filter is left on. Time to do this? 10 mins max. Cost of oil? £10 max. Do this one yourself :wink: .

As for fitting a Scotoiler, any competent mechanic should be able to do this in half an hour (probably less) so at a typical rate of £40-50 per hour £30 max is the price.

.

200 quid for an oil change ??????

ill do it for 50 :)

The manual says the oil is the only thing that must be changed, all the others are inspected and changed if necessary.
This translates to change everything they can find to change, hence the price.

I'll do it £50 and chuck in the oil for free!

Thanks for that.....spose it comes down to the old warranty wobbles and all that. Squirell.....did you get your suspension sorted there by any chance?

Why not ask the dealer for a detailed and listed estimate, with precisely what they do (in accordance with the Suzuki maintenance schedule) and how much for each bit. Have a funny feeling they won't get back to you :lol: .


.

Nope. Front suspension was done under the supervision of my gracious mr rictus, rear suspension I did myself.

A quote is exactly that. My 4k service from them came to £120. That included rear pads.

Ask them to let you know if its going to need pads/any other makor service items.

My bike has been serviced by Premier up until 30000 miles and never thought that they where un reasonable.

Yeah a quote is exactly that but one of £200 for the 4K service is a **** take.Iif the manual says the oil is the only thing that has to be changed then the quote should be the cost of changing the oil and checking the bits that need to be checked. If they then find there are parts that need changing then those obviuosly have to be changed but not before informing you in any case.

Bottom line is that is £200 is an unreasonable quote for a 4k service.

Cheers
Ben

only problem with doing it yourself or getting a non-suzuki person doing it is that your warrently will then be invalid....
you take your bike to a dealer and say.....fix it..they will be like....well...u have not had this serviced by an official suzuki person...u warrently is void now!......
although the above is correct....F3K all is done on a 1st service!!
i got my 1st serivce for free for god sake!!!!!!
oil change for £200!!!!!
F3K that!

You have to remember that they could say that for something's, but if your sub frame fell apart then I think doing your own servicing would have nowt to do with it.

No that's thankfully not true. Certainly the dealer likes to give this impression but under recent EU law vehicles can be maintained and serviced outside of a dealer network and still have a valid warranty providing the vehicle has been serviced to the manufacturer's specifications.

This includes doing it yourself; just keep a precise written record of what you do and keep all receipts for oil/filters/plugs etc.


.

Don't forget the new EU regulations that as long as you have paid a qualified mechanic to do the work the manufacturer can't insist that one of their authorised technicians do the job. As far as I can recall as long as you got a VAT receipt to prove that it was a professional company doing the work you should be okay.

Doh!

Note that this only applies to the original manufacturer's warranty. If you have an extended warranty (which, if truth be known, is nothing more than mechanical breakdown insurance) then these can, and often do, state that the servicing must be done by a manufacturers approved servicing agant (i.e. dealer) :evil:

Subject to the above :wink:

Yes agreed.


.

The 4K service is:

(for those that dont know)

inspect air filter
inspect plugs
inspect fuel pipe
replace oil
inspect idle speed
inspect throttle play
inspect rad hoses
inspect cluch play
inspect chain adjustment
inspect brakes and pads
inspect brake hose
inspect brake fluid level
Tighten chassis bolts

Jonboy can you explain how this can be done in ten minutes - it can but if you want it done properly then it will take longer.

Inspect means inspect and replace/clean or tighten if required.

£200 is very strong..but as they sell bikes out so cheap new then they are recouping their costs this way...not the way to go about it!.

As far as home servicing - yes you will void your warranty. If there is a recall via the DOT then that recall will be honoured and the broken parts replaced..otherwise nope sorry. If you take it anywhere other than an authorised dealer your warranty will only remain valid if A the mechanic has sufficient traing to work on that model (IE be trained in adjusting the trottle bodies etc) and that the fault that you claim for under warranty is not deemed to have been caused by the servicing technician.

As a dealer we get offered lots of part ex's that have no service history..truth is you WILL get offered less for the bike if it has no service history. You ask why - try selling a 20k SV650 with no history people dont want to know.

Shop around for a better quote..but be aware you dont always have to go to an independant to get a cheaper quote...!

Very simple boss lady (;)), you know as well as I do that a lot of dealers (possibly the majority) will give the bike a very cursory once over. To check all of the above really wouldn't take more than a few minutes anyway. Now you're from a top Suzuki dealership and I'm sure standards are somewhat higher there than a lot of other places, so please don't think I'm anti-dealer I just think that £200 for this particular service is simply outrageous - particularly as at 4000 miles very little needs adjusting.

And changing the oil? 10mins tops :wink: .


.

Completely agree with you on the charges !!.

Yep we like to make sure its done properly...there are also others that do...but plenty that dont!. But like anything its best to not rush these things...

bit like brewing beer.... :lol:

im anti dealer. :evil: :evil: :evil:
i could thoroughly check all the items above in about 15 mins.

Why are you anti dealer...genuine question..not a dig.

I know there are shops out there that rip people off and dont do the job properly but there are also many that do a good job and dont rip people off. It just seems that people nowadays are all too ready to moan and not praise.

What i find funny is when someone says "i wont use dealers as they dont do the job proper so i do it myself"...especially when its someone that isnt trained in that model and doesnt understand there is more to servicing a bike than changing oil and plugs...

basically, everytime ive been to a dealer, they have ripped me off.

(ive only found one dealer that i like - but pricey, but the guy who works there i trust)

ive just heard so many horror stories about dealers - and seen some of it myself - that - i just dont trust them, or their advice,
they just seem more concerned about selling me the most expensive product their is.

Hey Warren, Not far from you, good dealer who's done good work for me is the yamaha dealer in brentwood, GP motorcycles...

yeah, dont get me wrong, there are some good dealers around.

i just had a certain string of bad service from a few dealers - and dont really trust many of them

found kensingtons in romford to be good - but they only deal in honda stuff. very pricey tho.

for gear and stuff. i goto top gear in rush green. (just a few shops from johns of romford)

cant praise the guy enough (the scottish one) gives sound advice...and doesnt even try to sell you the most expensive things - plenty of stuff on sale there,

sold me a helmet and a cargo net. . . threw the tinted visor and helmet bag in for free (worth 45 quid) well worth a trip down there ian.

knocked 50 quid off the price of a set of leathers and boots too for my friend.

I'd trust our three grease monkeys... *ahem* service engineers even though I've only worked here three weeks. Mainly coz I've seen how much care they take over the bikes.

But Northampton's a bit far.

It's an experience thing I guess. I thought I'd found the perfect little garage to service my MG when I was living near Reading. Three little grease stained old men who had been in the trade with MG's since the year dot. Ask em anything, they knew it... specialist MG garage that even sponsored it's own MGC in classic track races, and advertised in the MG Owner's Club Magazine.

Moved up to Bedfordshire and found a Motor Heritage garage nearby... took one look at my brake disks and said "these haven't been changed for years"... 6 months after I've paid the first garage to do the job as well as a service! :shock:

Learnt to do a bit more on the car myself from then on!

let me know if your going down there sometime, will go have a look, dunno where it is

its about 10 mins from my house.

so if your ever in romford give me a bell.

ill post a map over the weekend.

I suppose alot of it comes down to who actually works in the dealership. Being in the trade for a while you get to see alot of what goes on behind the scenes.

Like us for example Steve who owns the shop actually is the "grease monkey"!!. So he probaly takes alot more care over what he is doing as it is down to him to make sure his business keeps its good rep. But more and more shops are now run by managers that never see the shop floor and only see the figures...you know what that ends up like without naming any names..

One big suzuki dealer in the south is now managed by ex car people that have never ridden a bike...yes they can manage..but how much are they doing to understand how bikers actually feel about their bikes...cars are very different..

Thanks for that!!!!! I took the bike anyways and it was an unreasonable quote. They charged me £118, which I'm happy with. They also supplied and fitted a scotoiler for £100 pounds which seems fair. Polite efficient they were. On a technical note, they bike felt a LOT better going through the gears as they had adjusted the clutch. The biting point was much further away from the bars so spose that meant more clearance betwenn plates when clutch was pulled. No dragging hence easy shift and neutral is now easy to find, which was a problem before.
So.....£200 was unreasonable, probably just covering his back!
BYEEEE

Surrey / South West London service centres
 

Can anyone tell me where is a good place to have my service done in South-west London / Surrey?

I phoned Wheelpower(where I actually bought the bike, and then got my friend to buy his) and they quoted me £200

Very rich for an oil change.
When I had my first service done by them, they charged me £120 and the bike looked untouched, They didn't even bother spraying something on the bikle to get ris of all the grease etc. that the chain had sprayed all over the show!

thanks

Re: Surrey / South West London service centres
 

... and probably was :!:

I got charged £90 for the pleasure of my first service - won't be using that dealer again :!: :evil: :toss:

if you bought the bike from them then the labour should be free you just pay for parts which is oil and filter.

£90 . . .
 

Chelsea Scooters are a registered Suzuki Dealer and said they would do the service for £90 plus VAT and parts

Figure oil is about £12, and VAT on top would take that to about £120ish . . .
OK, so ne free bike for the day, but I couldn't care less for £80 difference?

I just been quoted £220 by local garage , Daytona. - Kinda hard to stay loyal to the garage you buy your bike from when 10 miles away in Fulham they will do it for 90 +VAT
I was told that the air in london is dirty so I may need a new airfilter which will cost 30ish pounds!
:o