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DoubleD 11-10-06 01:01 PM

Does my Blueflame look to big ?
 
I have had a couple of remarks about my end CAN looking a bit long.

After looking at the bike side on and lots of erms I think they might be right as the end of the CAN is inline with the end of the bike.

Have a look in this pic
http://www.salehouse.free-online.co....pics/bike2.JPG

ps this is a old pic and have a tail tidy on so it looks even longer now!

What am I to do if it is too long??

timwilky 11-10-06 01:08 PM

Bloody hell, you from St Annes and a perfectly good manufacturer of after market cans up the road from you in fleetwood and you have to buy the most unreliable make of can to put on a v twin.

Yes it looks too big, don't worry it will fall apart within the year and you will have a valid excuse to then replace it.

Law 11-10-06 01:11 PM

It does look a tad long compared to mine. I'll take a close up of mine when there's better weather and I find a camera.

Nashwan 11-10-06 01:18 PM

Yikes, my Remus is about 2/3 the size of that :?

instigator 11-10-06 01:19 PM

An exhaust that big must mean he's compensating for something. :lol: :wink:

It looks a smidgen long, yes.

northwind 11-10-06 01:33 PM

If that was mine, I'd chop it down so that the exits are at exactly the same length as the tip of the tail section. Or maybe the grabrail. I don't know how the Blue Flames are plumbed internally though, might be a bit less easy than with my single ports.

And make sure it's good and tight at the bracket too, that'll cut the vibrations which is what usually breaks up Blueflames I reckon. The less play, the less flap, and the less wear.

Stu 11-10-06 01:37 PM

Beg Rod Geskill for a K5 link pipe - it's shorter.
Worked for me :D

Is your bike lowered? could be why it looks wrong?

DoubleD 11-10-06 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu
Beg Rod Geskill for a K5 link pipe - it's shorter.
Worked for me :D

Is your bike lowered? could be why it looks wrong?

Bike has not been lowered.
Is that Rod at Blueflame?

fizzwheel 11-10-06 01:48 PM

I agree with Stu. looks like you have the wrong link pipe. You can email rod at

rgeskell@blueflameperformance.com

He's a good guy to deal with.

Law 11-10-06 01:55 PM

Couple of pics to compare. I've noticed the length seems to change depending on the angle photographed at ie slightly left or right.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...s/DSCF2899.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...s/DSCF2900.jpg

instigator 11-10-06 01:58 PM

^^That exhaust actually looks shorter than the original posters can. Where is the blue flame badge (which is usually rivetted on)

Did you buy the can off ebay, 2nd hand? As it looks to me that the can has come from another bike hence the length (not always the same length)

fizzwheel 11-10-06 01:58 PM

Law your can hanger is much more towards the center of the can that the one on DoubleD's bike is.

It might be the angle of the photo, but your link pipe looks like it has a more of a bend in it to.

DoubleD where did you cut your original exhaust ? I'm wandering if you didnt cut if close enough to the weld and thats why its sticking out so much. IIRC you are supposed to cut 45mm from the weld.

fizzwheel 11-10-06 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by instigator
^^That exhaust actually looks shorter than the original posters can. Where is the blue flame badge (which is usually rivetted on)

Did you buy the can off ebay, 2nd hand? As it looks to me that the can has come from another bike hence the length (not always the same length)

My blue flame had a sticker instead of the rivetted on plate. IIRC Dr Rich said they stoppped producing them with the rivetted on plate as it was one of the causes of EVO models vibrating themselves apart.

DoubleD 11-10-06 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Law
Couple of pics to compare. I've noticed the length seems to change depending on the angle photographed at ie slightly left or right.

Looks like your link pipe is way shorter than mine.
I'll have a chat with Rob and see what he says.

DoubleD 11-10-06 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fizzwheel
Quote:

Originally Posted by instigator
^^That exhaust actually looks shorter than the original posters can. Where is the blue flame badge (which is usually rivetted on)

Did you buy the can off ebay, 2nd hand? As it looks to me that the can has come from another bike hence the length (not always the same length)

My blue flame had a sticker instead of the rivetted on plate. IIRC Dr Rich said they stoppped producing them with the rivetted on plate as it was one of the causes of EVO models vibrating themselves apart.

It had a blurflame sticker which I put on and then took off again, looks better without the sticker, I would have liked the rivetted badge.

DoubleD 11-10-06 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fizzwheel
Law your can hanger is much more towards the center of the can that the one on DoubleD's bike is.

It might be the angle of the photo, but your link pipe looks like it has a more of a bend in it to.

DoubleD where did you cut your original exhaust ? I'm wandering if you didnt cut if close enough to the weld and thats why its sticking out so much. IIRC you are supposed to cut 45mm from the weld.

The link pipe I have is butted up to the weld and won't go on any further, cut pipe as per instructions.

Law 11-10-06 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fizzwheel
Quote:

Originally Posted by instigator
^^That exhaust actually looks shorter than the original posters can. Where is the blue flame badge (which is usually rivetted on)

Did you buy the can off ebay, 2nd hand? As it looks to me that the can has come from another bike hence the length (not always the same length)

My blue flame had a sticker instead of the rivetted on plate. IIRC Dr Rich said they stoppped producing them with the rivetted on plate as it was one of the causes of EVO models vibrating themselves apart.

I got mine new, July last year. Dunno when they started to put stickers on.

Stu 11-10-06 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fizzwheel
I agree with Stu. looks like you have the wrong link pipe. You can email rod at

rgeskell@blueflameperformance.com

He's a good guy to deal with.

Took a lot of tooing & frooing (sp?) but came through in the end :thumbsup:

Easy way out might be to say you have a K5?

instigator 11-10-06 02:24 PM

Is there anyone with photoshop that can compare the lengths of the can from the 2 photos using the can hanger as reference?

Still think it's longer, physically.

fizzwheel 11-10-06 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoubleD
The link pipe I have is butted up to the weld and won't go on any further, cut pipe as per instructions.

Sounds like they have sent you the wrong link pipe then. Drop Rod an email he should be able to sort it out for you.

DoubleD 11-10-06 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by instigator
Is there anyone with photoshop that can compare the lengths of the can from the 2 photos using the can hanger as reference?

Still think it's longer, physically.

I'll get the tape measure out on it and measure the link pipe and measure the end CAN as well and I'll let you know how long it really is!

curium 11-10-06 05:43 PM

I haven't answered the poll but I did want to point out that I know of three individuals whose blueflame cans fell apart within a year!

DoubleD 12-10-06 09:24 AM

Ok I had the tape measure out this morning.

Link pipe is 26cm long from the weld to the start of the CAN. (might be couple of cm that are inside the end CAN)

The end CAN itself is 48cm long.

Only 11cm from the start of the CAN to the strap, that leaves some 35cm after the strap!! (allowing 2cm for strap)

I also noticed that the strap has been rubbing on the coloured part of the CAN and has rubbed some of it away! Great, if I move the CAN now then i'm going to be left with a strap mark showing....

Any ideas??

Law 12-10-06 12:14 PM

My measurements.

End can along the bottom = 41cm(45ish if you include the port length)

Strap = 3.5 cm

22.5cm link pipe along the top from weld under peg to can.

I got a new K5 link pipe a couple months ago and it moved the can 2cm further forward. There are some strap marks if you look closely at the can.

Stu 12-10-06 12:31 PM

I was lucky, my colour is at the end not the front so old strap mark not too noticeable. You will know by now that my measurements were the same as yours.
Will post before & after pics tonight.

DoubleD 12-10-06 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Law
End can along the bottom = 41cm(45ish if you include the port length)

:shock: mine is 48cm without the port length included.... :shock:

I might have the wrong can as well as the wrong link pipe!!

Stu 12-10-06 05:20 PM

DD You should know from my email all blueflames were 48cm until recently 40 cm was made available (40 cm supposed to be only for high level ones).

DoubleD 12-10-06 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu
DD You should know from my email all blueflames were 48cm until recently 40 cm was made available (40 cm supposed to be only for high level ones).

:oops: :oops: Re-read your e-mail properly :oops: :oops:

Law 12-10-06 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu
DD You should know from my email all blueflames were 48cm until recently 40 cm was made available (40 cm supposed to be only for high level ones).

Meh, I prefer my one even though it's supposed to be only for high level.

DD - I hope Blueflame sorts it all out for you. :)

Stu 12-10-06 10:10 PM

Before with the 25cm link pipe
http://upload4.postimage.org/1377217/DSC00005.jpg

After with the 22 cm link pipe

http://upload4.postimage.org/1377227/DSC00008.jpg

Will try again for myself in the daylight and try and replicate the first position better.
May not look much better, but it's a step in the right direction. And on mine it has brought it in a lot closer to my bike.

DoubleD 12-10-06 10:17 PM

Thank you everyone for your help in the poll and for the pics that have been posted :thumbsup:

I've started a conversation up with blueflame to get it sorted.

Thanks


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