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do any of you know about the unbuntu version of linix

if just installed it onto my laptop but now its asking for a user name and password, ive not set any so im confused

can anybody help??

Try the default Linux user name and password...



...whatever they are... :P



but if I was a betting man, I'd lay money that *sys* or *admin* or *root* figure in it somewhere.


But I'm not, so I won't. :cry:

Installed it on my desktop at work the other month.....

Did it not ask you for one during install???

It doesn't really use the "root" user - it does all of that stuff with the sudo command

Just cruised the web and it seems to agree with me.

If you cant remember just re-install and watch out for it asking for username and password in the latter parts of the install

David

Hello sir.


OK, so, you were definately asked for a password during the installation. Sorry...

What can be happening though is that you only set a root pass, and not a user account and pass. You should set up an account for yourself when you are initing the machine, because Ubuntu does not let you log in as root from the GUI screen.
Sooooo, lets see. Em, ok,

You can hit CTRL-ALT-F4 to get to the command line. Log in as root, and
then you can add a user with the adduser command:

adduser <insert>

It will then walk you through setting the passwords for that user.
Once the user is created, you can get back to the GUI with CTRL-ALT-F7.

Hope that works out!

your a genious

i remeber setting a root pass up, but never setting a user name or user pass (the installation did go a bit funky though)

all sorted now, much apreciated

I know this has now been solved, but there's a well known 'flaw' in many Linux/BSD based operating systems (mainly those without an SELinux kernel or similar).

At the bootloader, tell it to boot into single user mode. This (in at least pre 2.4 kernels) doesn't require authentication, mainly because it mounts everything ro, and assumes you want to do some physical maintenance.

Then you can unmount / (or at least the partition containing /etc/passwd ) then remount it in rw. Since you're automatically logged into the system as root, you can now go ahead and create the user. Just don't forget to give the user a shell, and setup the home directory. If you don't, you might as well of not bothered with single user mode, as it won't let you login.

Handy 'hole' that assumes you have physical access to the box (it defaults to runlevel 1, so no networking allowed etc). I've purposefully left details missing, as those that already know this method, know all of the above in detail, those that don't, probably never need to dive this deep into what can be a scary Operating System.

If anyone needs to do the above for any reason, give me a shout :)

Glad you got it sorted mate.
Enjoy Ubuntu 8)

(HAve a look at the forums, they are a sound lot... http://ubuntuforums.org/index.php

Isn't Ubuntu what the missionary chose death by in the cannibals joke? :?

i installed it on the laptop as XP was running REAL slow and i thought Linux would be a bit faster (its only a 900 celron with sod all ram) but i was wrong if anything this is even slower :cry: :cry: i might try and put some more ram in it, that should help

More RAM will certainly help. You might want to try go beyond the normal rule for swap. Normally twice your RAM, but tripple doesn't hurt.

Be cautious of going too large on swap, as this can impact performance serverly when you've got 'sod all' RAM.

Nah.... he's the one who's last request was for a fork.

He stabbed himself all over with it and his dying words were "You're not making a ****ing canoe out of me!"

GEEK COMMENT - NON GEEKS MOVE ALONG - NOTHING TO SEE HERE

Had to laugh at Jabba's comment - well Ubuntu is a "fork" of Debian

David

You're not telling us geeks much, the ubuntu website says this. It's why it's called ubuntu, shockingly.

Just a different perspective...one that I grew up with in South Africa. None of this namby pamby computer rubbish :wink:

The full Ubuntu, is meant for fairly new machines. If you would like a faster Ubuntu, there is a leaned up version, called XUbuntu. You can dl from http://www.xubuntu.org/

This will run quickly, it just wont look as sexy.

I was just about to say that... the other option is put something really light on like DSL, Dam Small Linux... which is so tiny you can boot it off a 64mb usb stick!

PicoBSD people! Boot from floppy, forget your harddisk even exists! :D

Thats a bit extreme even for me.

:lol: Sorry :oops: I'm used to running machines that have a power cable, and eth cable, and don't have any form of graphical interface that involves more than 2 colours.

PicoBSD is a damn handy router, if someone comprimises it, the floppy is write protected anyway, physically. If you want to test config, stick a floppy in a test machine. When you roll it to the production environment, you suffer a few mins downtime to shutdown & restart the box.

So have I... I've been using UNIX since I was 18... 13years now... but I do like some graphics to ease my life, its just wasted flashyness I hate. Plus I've also used some really cack OS, like the ones on BT merdian systems.

I was just about to say that... the other option is put something really light on like DSL, Dam Small Linux... which is so tiny you can boot it off a 64mb usb stick!

Cheers guy, i liked Ubuntu quite a bit so ive installed it on to my main pc on the little 7GB HD i had to try out, infact im posting from here now.

installing stuff is a bit awkward (as i have no idea how to do it) anbody rekomend me a book or anything on the net whcih will teach me a bit more about linux!

Welcome to the new world! :D

http://www.linux.org/docs/online_books.html

cheers dude, im quite pleased with myself ive managed to install flash and get mp3s playing so far.

the installatino did go a bit weird and it asked me which Kernal i wanted to use???????? urm i just chose one, whats the differences

The kernel is the core part of the operating system, and sometimes you'll need to tweak it to achive certain things.

My Fedora Core machine at home has the option to boot into two kernels, one has NTFS support, the other doesn't. The NTFS Kernel is also compiled to use SELinux to it's full potential.

Basically, it depends on what you want it to do.

Well done Marshall mate.
The biggest recommendation I can give you is this:
click System
click Adminstration
click Synaptic Packet Manager.
enter your password

now you are running synaptic. Do yourself a favour and learn how this works. Its very simple and has a nice GUI interface.
This is your software management tool, I think its one of Ubuntus best features. (Not that they invented it.)
OK,
Click settings,
Click Repositories
and look through all the different repositories.
make sure you have all the different universes there, multiverse, universe, everything.
Then you can get almost any software available for linux on a point and click basis. Ie for flash, click search, enter 'flash' and you will be shown all the stuff available for ubuntu that is to do with flash.

Here, and the nerd squad, relax with the really high level chats about stuff. This marshall dude is just sitting down for the first time with linux.

I feel that this instant high level chat isnt really helping him out, and it intimidates people. Linux has a bad enough rep for being difficult as it is.


Marshall man, look up the ubuntu forums link i posted. Everything will be answered, very politely and nicely there.

why does this sound all too much for me :roll:

well... my girl friends Ma, who never used a computer in her life 1 year ago, and is not really a hardcore hacker, is sailing along with her new Ubuntu Linux. The machine came with Windows, and was unusable in a month or so. So, I re-installed windows, and within 3 months it was screwed again. On went Ubuntu, end of problem,

No worrying about spyware, root kits, malware, viruses, anti virus software, bloat ware, etc etc etc.
She swtiches on the machine, and uses it happily, and switches it off.
In my opinion, keeping a Windows machine clean and safe at this point is extremely difficult. (Extremely difficult =~ impossble.)
Keeping a linux box is far far easier.

so a Ubuntu Linux installed machine doesnt get infected so easy? where do i get this os from and does it cost? < sorry but i'm up to speed with windows os but in the dark ages about all others. :roll:

Ubuntu is available from http://www.ubuntu.com/download
Other versions of linux are available from http://www.linuxiso.org/

Cost? Well, Free! Free as in beer! (the geeks will understand... but seriously, Windows costs what? £130 ish? Linux, they give it away, and it's a better product... how's that for supply & demand?)

Better product? Now there's an argument waiting to happen.

AFAIK there are zero wild or even theoetical viruses existing for the latest Ubuntu release.
You get it from http://www.ubuntu.com/download if you want to download it, or they will send you a CD free if you cant get a decent network connection.

It doesnt cost anything, and it never will. You will never have to pay for patches, updates, the latest version etc etc. It's completely free.

If you have a new fast machine (new in the last 5 years) then you would be best with standard Ubuntu. If you have an older machine, look at Xubuntu. If you have any more questions look on the ubuntu forums link I posted up before. There is a newbie section, and they are a really dead on crowd.

Too fast for me Baph.

Yeah. Better. I try not to use that word... even though, it patently is better.
Just depends on what you are comparing. Linux is a better operating system than MS-DOS, without any question.
Windows is a GUI that sits on top of DOS.
"Ubuntu X" is a GUI that sits on top of Linux.
Which GUI is better.... thats a reasonable question. At this point I would just about give it to Ubuntu X. Barely though. The Windows element of MS OS is pretty good.

Which OS is better for playing Halo on? Windows.
Which OS is better fofr playing almost all games on? Windows.
Which OS is better for browsing the Web, not crashing, not needing much effort on the users part, keeping your data safe, programming and doing all the crap I do every day? Ubuntu.
Which OS is better for high level music and photo/animation stuff? OS X probably.

cheers, i got 2 pc's i might try running it on the older one (1200amd)

About viruses under linux:

Yes they exist, but Windows viruses outnumber Linux viruses around 4000:1 (according to a friend of mine that works for an Anti-Virus software company).

Supposing you get infected by a virus, it affects the user that got infected, and no other user looses data. If you get infected, you log out, and the virus is forced to stop executing. With windows, this isn't the case.

Granted, there are exceptions to this, but that's going into a little too much detail, and generally is an attack by a person, not a virus. Basically because to escilate priviledges (to break out from one user to another) is very specific to each distribution of linux, and usually, specific to each individual machine!

Also, most distributions come with a firewall that's pretty secure by default. So that stops any nastyness getting in unless you let it in (click the wrong link, open the wrong attachment etc etc).

I read a review not long ago, where they tested, I think, five of the most destructive/annoying viruses under Windows. Only they tested under Linux. Most of them that couldn't execute, aand those that could, didn't manage to cause any damage at all. Nice huh?

To learn how to install stuff, and a few other basics, www.psychocats.net is excellent - tells you about all the different ways to do it, for stuff that isn't on synaptic.

hmm, the site is down at the moment, but check it out later. the owner is a very helpful dude on the ubuntu forum.

At this point, I'd like to point out that there are other versions of Linux than just Ubuntu. Personally, I run Fedora Core 5. Swing & roundabouts, same OS, just with some minor tweaks here & there pretty much.

Games? Well, Wine is your friend. No, not the aloholic stuff, there's a Linux application named Wine.

Using Linux/Wine, I've run Half Life 2 and F.E.A.R on the same machine, and the same graphics detail. Linux with Wine gave a faster frame rate. Yes it's a royal pain in the bum to set it up, whereas Windows is point, click, wait, done. But it depends what you want from an operating system.

Which brings me to the SOLE reason I tell some people to stick with windows. Easy of use. Which OS has the best hardware compatability, which is easiest to buy (well, get) software for? Which is the easiest to install the software onto? Windows wins, hands down, every time. Linux is getting better, and its a far cry from 10 years ago, but there's still work to be done.

Linux/Unix/MacOS isn't to be entered into lightly, it's a steep learning curve. Distributions like Ubuntu try to reduce the curve, and they do a good job at it, but it's still steep.

If you have the time to learn, go for it, otherwise, you'll only end up frustrated, back with Windows, and hating everyone who mentions Linux ever again.

I have had a couple of machines that wouldnt take a windows installation, and that both SuSe, fedora, and Ubuntu walked onto.

I say a couple, and I mean two. Windows usually goes on no problem. Ubuntu too though. And Fedora, and Suse. All of the recent versions have had no problems with the install. Even Marshall above, who (all due respect) is a newbie, just walked it on. He said he was confused as to which kernel to boot, he picked one, and things were fine.

I would say though, if you want to game, running WINE is going to slow things down. Boot over, unplug off the web, play away.