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Ed 24-10-06 07:53 PM

What happened to the STOP! thread?
 
Wot it says...

21QUEST 24-10-06 08:00 PM

...... now lost in Cyber space me thinks :? :wink:


Cheers
Ben

Ed 24-10-06 08:04 PM

Shame, it contained some interesting discussion. Controversial, yes - and heated, yes - but it was thought provoking stuff on which people are bound to have strong views, and I'm disappointed that it has been deleted.

In fact I think it was a wrong decision.

Edski

BabyJ 24-10-06 08:08 PM

I do too Ed but hey.. there is a greater power and we mere mortals aren't allowed too much freedom of speech!!

Mods... you could have asked for a vote to see if we wanted it deleted....??

Filipe M. 24-10-06 08:29 PM

What they said... it was getting pretty heated up, but deleting it wasn't really the best option (IMHO, of course). It'll only make things worse, creating some sort of taboo around the subject, which is the exact opposite of what's needed here. Again, IMHO, there have been better candidates for deletion lately.

:?

BabyJ 24-10-06 08:54 PM

Abracadabra........!!

And then it came back!!

21QUEST 24-10-06 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyJ
Abracadabra........!!

And then it came back!!


:lol: Now, if only you could bottle it...... :P


Cheers
Ben

BabyJ 24-10-06 09:06 PM

What like a ship in a bottle?!?! :wink:

Me?? You won't be hearing another peep from me sir! Honest!

:-#

lynw 24-10-06 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BabyJ
What like a ship in a bottle?!?! :wink:

Me?? You won't be hearing another peep from me sir! Honest!

:-#

Shame because it was, aside from your negativity and criticisms of people who dared to disagree with you, a good place to raise the real issues.

For starters, the candle site is aimed at law enforcement, ISPs, governments, etc. Now IWF have just released their stats for 10 years - the child pornography on uk hosted sites has dropped from 18% to 0.2%. Im just amazed at how they achieved all of that before 700,000 people clicked a link. :roll:

But what I am trying to convey to you is that what is in the public domain is a drop in the ocean to what is in the private domain. It is in the private domain the worst images of abuse reside, and where the abusers lurk. Cleaning up the public domain achieves very little in reality for abused children - because it is a minority of children involved.

What I tried to do is what you wanted - raise peoples awareness of a lot of related issues surrounding this which can be constructively tackled and people can do something real to help change and stop the abuse in the first place. I dont see why trying to raise that issue should get so much flak tbh if your aim was to raise awareness which is what I was trying to do.

Stu 24-10-06 09:48 PM

Thanks Ed for taking the effort which resulted in the thread being resurrected.

I imagine it's run it's course now (not that I'm stopping anyone from posting in it!) But I much prefer the chance to read it to the end and for it to remain on record rather than having it deleted).

I found the points raised in it quite shocking, and I thank all the contributors for that.

21QUEST 25-10-06 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BabyJ
What like a ship in a bottle?!?! :wink:

Me?? You won't be hearing another peep from me sir! Honest!

:-#

Lol. I was thinking more along the lines of, put a tail on it and call it a weasel. :? :wink:


Cheers
Ben

fizzwheel 25-10-06 08:00 AM

It wasnt deleted by me, I've been keeping an eye on it, but all that was going on was a heated debate. Different viewpoints yes, but nothing IMHO that required moderation / deletion.

I'm wandering if we had a forum glitch last night, rather than the thread being deleted.

Viney 25-10-06 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by fizzwheel
It wasnt deleted by me, I've been keeping an eye on it, but all that was going on was a heated debate. Different viewpoints yes, but nothing IMHO that required moderation / deletion.

I'm wandering if we had a forum glitch last night, rather than the thread being deleted.

A glitch in the matrix

thor 25-10-06 08:36 AM

Hammer time?

TSM 25-10-06 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Viney
Quote:

Originally Posted by fizzwheel
It wasnt deleted by me, I've been keeping an eye on it, but all that was going on was a heated debate. Different viewpoints yes, but nothing IMHO that required moderation / deletion.

I'm wandering if we had a forum glitch last night, rather than the thread being deleted.

A glitch in the matrix

Possibly, naa, no data has been lost, the DB has not been replaced.

Baph 25-10-06 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by TSM
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Originally Posted by Viney
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Originally Posted by fizzwheel
It wasnt deleted by me, I've been keeping an eye on it, but all that was going on was a heated debate. Different viewpoints yes, but nothing IMHO that required moderation / deletion.

I'm wandering if we had a forum glitch last night, rather than the thread being deleted.

A glitch in the matrix

Possibly, naa, no data has been lost, the DB has not been replaced.

There was definately a glitch yesterday. Me & Filipe noticed a thread missing that I found in browser cache and was still active, but wasn't indexed. A couple of minutes later and the thread was indexed again.

TSM 25-10-06 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Baph
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Originally Posted by TSM
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Originally Posted by Viney
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Originally Posted by fizzwheel
It wasnt deleted by me, I've been keeping an eye on it, but all that was going on was a heated debate. Different viewpoints yes, but nothing IMHO that required moderation / deletion.

I'm wandering if we had a forum glitch last night, rather than the thread being deleted.

A glitch in the matrix

Possibly, naa, no data has been lost, the DB has not been replaced.

There was definately a glitch yesterday. Me & Filipe noticed a thread missing that I found in browser cache and was still active, but wasn't indexed. A couple of minutes later and the thread was indexed again.

Did not say no glitch, but not data lost, its not the way phpBB works, its possible that you had stale cache files. All forum lists are created on the fly in phpBB unlike some other forums such as vB that cache forum listings to speed up page generation.


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